On 2012-03-15 23:59, foobar wrote:
On Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 10:39:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Why would that pose a problem to DMD? object.d is a regular D module and
D provides a public import feature. If that fails for some modules it
should be considered a bug in the compiler.
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 23:14:42 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Alright, I've finished the basic functionality of my AA
implementation.
I still haven't solved that problem with using suffixless string
literals to index X[dstring], so you'll have to write
aa[abcd] instead
of just aa[abc]. But I
On 15.03.2012 2:44, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 09:07:40 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
On 14.03.2012 6:39, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready
On 03/15/2012 09:40 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
On 15.03.2012 2:44, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
Not true, as Steven said a opaque pImpl implementation would
work, most modern C library design follow this principle with
only using opaque except for pointers. This is because the ABI
will then only
On 15.03.2012 12:52, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 03/15/2012 09:40 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
On 15.03.2012 2:44, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
Not true, as Steven said a opaque pImpl implementation would
work, most modern C library design follow this principle with
only using opaque except for pointers.
On 2012-03-15 08:59, foobar wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 23:14:42 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Alright, I've finished the basic functionality of my AA implementation.
I still haven't solved that problem with using suffixless string
literals to index X[dstring], so you'll have to write
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:19:33 -0400, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
On 2012-03-15 08:59, foobar wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 23:14:42 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Alright, I've finished the basic functionality of my AA implementation.
I still haven't solved that problem with using
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:52:41 -0400, Timon Gehr timon.g...@gmx.ch wrote:
On 03/15/2012 09:40 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
On 15.03.2012 2:44, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
Not true, as Steven said a opaque pImpl implementation would
work, most modern C library design follow this principle with
only
On 2012-03-15 11:39, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:19:33 -0400, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
I think object.d should be empty except for the definition of Object.
The rest should be located in their own modules and publicly imported
in object.d
I think the compiler
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:20:43 -0400, Jakob Bornecrantz
wallbra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 14:02:30 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
This is unavoidable, whether it's a template or not. What changes do
you envision would be transparent using an opaque pImpl model
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:47:00 -0400, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
On 2012-03-15 11:39, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:19:33 -0400, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
I think object.d should be empty except for the definition of Object.
The rest should be located in
On 2012-03-15 11:52, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Isn't full name of TypeInfo object.TypeInfo? Is that not hard-coded into
the compiler?
-Steve
I have no idea if object.TypeInfo is hard-coded into the compiler.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 15/03/12 00:16, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:30:45PM -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/13/12 7:54 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d.
Great! This will need compiler restructuring, and in fact
On 3/15/12 11:02 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is *completely* ready.
This includes AA literals. They need to be accepted somehow. The
compiler will give you syntax sugar and *nothing* more.
One
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:05:46 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/15/12 11:02 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is *completely* ready.
This includes AA literals. They
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 05:02:06PM +0100, Don Clugston wrote:
On 15/03/12 00:16, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is *completely* ready.
This includes AA literals. They need to be accepted somehow. The
On 3/15/12 12:12 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:05:46 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/15/12 11:02 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is
On 03/15/2012 11:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Second, that breaks a *LOT* of code which expects AA's to just be
declared and used.
Not necessarily. The compiler could still do the auto-initialization.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:24:24 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/15/12 12:12 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:05:46 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/15/12 11:02 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
This is good,
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:28:00 -0400, Timon Gehr timon.g...@gmx.ch wrote:
On 03/15/2012 11:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Second, that breaks a *LOT* of code which expects AA's to just be
declared and used.
Not necessarily. The compiler could still do the auto-initialization.
Auto
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:39:19 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer
schvei...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:24:24 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
What would that look like?
auto aa = [1:1];
becomes:
int[1] __k = [1]; // obviously, no heap allocation
On 3/15/12 12:39 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:24:24 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
Template function takes over, does whatever is necessary, such as
possibly conversion to varargs.
Right, but with a template:
[1:1]
[1:1, 2:2]
become
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:22:06AM -0700, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
This is one major area that I forgot to mention, and that is, making AA
literals work at compile-time. Currently things like this don't work:
enum myAA = [abc:123, def:456];
I'd like to make that work. That would
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:11:11 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/15/12 12:39 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:24:24 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
Template function takes over, does whatever is
On 15.03.2012 21:22, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 05:02:06PM +0100, Don Clugston wrote:
On 15/03/12 00:16, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is *completely* ready.
This includes AA literals.
On Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 10:39:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:19:33 -0400, Jacob Carlborg
I think object.d should be empty except for the definition of
Object. The rest should be located in their own modules and
publicly imported in object.d
I think the
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:50:47PM +0400, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
[...]
This is one major area that I forgot to mention, and that is, making
AA literals work at compile-time. Currently things like this don't
work:
enum myAA = [abc:123, def:456];
I'd like to make that work. That would
On 3/15/12 5:59 PM, foobar wrote:
It frustrates me to no end Andrei's refusal to accept a design proven to
work for half a century (which is already utilized by the compiler!) -
the File System. Choosing instead to duplicate organization features
inside DDOC as sections. This is a classic
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 21:10:43 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/15/12 5:59 PM, foobar wrote:
It frustrates me to no end Andrei's refusal to accept a design proven to
work for half a century (which is already utilized by the compiler!) -
the File System. Choosing instead to duplicate
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 05:02:06PM +0100, Don Clugston wrote:
[...]
This is good, and very, very important. Do *not* make any attempt at
compiler integration until it is *completely* ready.
This includes AA literals. They need to be accepted somehow. The
compiler will give you syntax sugar
On 14.03.2012 6:39, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d. So far I've been writing the implementation
outside of object_.d for ease of testing development;
On 14/03/12 03:39, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d. So far I've been writing the implementation
outside of object_.d for ease of testing development;
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:39:25 -0400, Jakob Bornecrantz
wallbra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to replace
aaA.d. So far I've been writing the implementation
outside of
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 09:07:40 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky
wrote:
On 14.03.2012 6:39, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready
to
replace aaA.d. So far I've been writing
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 13:55:23 UTC, Don Clugston wrote:
On 14/03/12 03:39, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready
to
replace aaA.d. So far I've been writing the
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:30:45PM -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/13/12 7:54 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d.
Great! This will need compiler restructuring, and in fact offers the
perfect opportunity for
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 14:02:30 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:39:25 -0400, Jakob Bornecrantz
wallbra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready
to
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:20:43AM +0100, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
[...]
struct AAver1(K, V)
{
K[] tbl; V[] tlb2; uint size;
}
struct AAver2(K, V)
{
K[] tbl; V[] tbl2; V[] optimizationTbl;
}
Would break if a AAver1 table was ever passed to code that
was compiled against a
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 23:51:30 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:20:43AM +0100, Jakob Bornecrantz
wrote:
[...]
struct AAver1(K, V)
{
K[] tbl; V[] tlb2; uint size;
}
struct AAver2(K, V)
{
K[] tbl; V[] tbl2; V[] optimizationTbl;
}
Would break if a AAver1 table
On 3/14/12 6:16 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
- Declaring an AA with non-const array keys will cause reams and reams
of compile errors. I'm not *too* worried about this at the moment
since it doesn't make sense to have non-const AA keys anyway. I'm also
seriously considering forcing *all* AA
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:58:01PM -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/14/12 6:16 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
- Declaring an AA with non-const array keys will cause reams and reams
of compile errors. I'm not *too* worried about this at the moment
since it doesn't make sense to have
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to replace
aaA.d. So far I've been writing the implementation outside of object_.d
for ease of testing development; now I'm ready to start moving stuff
into object_.d to start working on integration with druntime. So I'm
Welcome to Hell. =D
Some of the things you can do with AAs are recognized by the compiler during
semantic and turned into druntime calls, sometimes the constructs survive
all the way to the glue layer (e2ir) and are turned into druntime calls
there and sometimes the type of an expressions is
On 14 March 2012 14:37, Daniel Murphy yebbl...@nospamgmail.com wrote:
Welcome to Hell. =D
Sounds fun.
(Seasoned DF player)
--
James Miller
On 3/13/12 7:54 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to replace
aaA.d.
Great! This will need compiler restructuring, and in fact offers the
perfect opportunity for it. I suggest you to post your implementation
here for review first, and
On Wednesday, 14 March 2012 at 00:52:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d. So far I've been writing the implementation
outside of object_.d for ease of testing development; now I'm
ready to start moving stuff into
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:30:45PM -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/13/12 7:54 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Hi all,
My AA implementation is slowly inching closer to being ready to
replace aaA.d.
Great! This will need compiler restructuring, and in fact offers the
perfect opportunity for
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:37:08PM +1100, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Welcome to Hell. =D
Ahhhahahaha... sounds like I leapt into the deep end of the pool without
knowing it. :-P
Some of the things you can do with AAs are recognized by the compiler
during semantic and turned into druntime calls,
H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote in message
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:37:08PM +1100, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Welcome to Hell. =D
Ahhhahahaha... sounds like I leapt into the deep end of the pool without
knowing it. :-P
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