Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:14:34 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: On 10/29/11 7:17 PM, bls wrote: On 10/29/2011 04:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: td.container seems to have been written by the very same Steven Schveighoffer. Just the RBTree portion (and

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread bls
On 10/31/2011 05:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: I encourage anyone to port any portion of dcollections to std.container. If nothing else it will help flesh out the design of std.container Ahem.. No offense, or wth Maybe I miss the point but I guess you will agree with me that Phobos, in

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, October 31, 2011 15:47 bls wrote: On 10/31/2011 05:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: I encourage anyone to port any portion of dcollections to std.container. If nothing else it will help flesh out the design of std.container Ahem.. No offense, or wth Maybe I miss the point

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread bls
On 10/31/2011 04:11 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That's perfectly reasonable. The fact that std.container is so incomplete is a _huge_ problem for Phobos. It needs to be filled out and its API fully ironed out. Overall, it looks solid, but it just doesn't have enough actual usage at this point

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, October 31, 2011 16:48 bls wrote: On 10/31/2011 04:11 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That's perfectly reasonable. The fact that std.container is so incomplete is a _huge_ problem for Phobos. It needs to be filled out and its API fully ironed out. Overall, it looks solid, but it just

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Caligo
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.comwrote: On Monday, October 31, 2011 16:48 bls wrote: On 10/31/2011 04:11 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That's perfectly reasonable. The fact that std.container is so incomplete is a _huge_ problem for Phobos. It needs to

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, October 31, 2011 20:57:04 Caligo wrote: How long before custom allocator stuff is complete? 6 months? a year? I don't know. I'd expect it to be within the next few months, but there's no way to know when. I could be sooner; it could be later. - Jonathan M Davis

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-31 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, October 31, 2011 20:08:52 Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Monday, October 31, 2011 20:57:04 Caligo wrote: How long before custom allocator stuff is complete? 6 months? a year? I don't know. I'd expect it to be within the next few months, but there's no way to know when. I could be

phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread bls
I am watching D since about 4 years now. Still no std.collection. For whatever reasons several approaches to bring in an usable collection module has been mission impossible. Just want to mention Ben Hinkle D1 , Uwe Salomon D1 , and now Steven Schveighoffer D2, not to forget Ant D1 (the GTKD

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Vladimir Panteleev
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:20:15 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: Steven Schveighoffer - Surprisingly still there is the author of dcollections (BOOST LICENSE Range-I-fied) std.container? http://d-programming-language.org/phobos/std_container.html -- Best regards, Vladimir

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread bls
On 10/29/2011 04:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:20:15 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: Steven Schveighoffer - Surprisingly still there is the author of dcollections (BOOST LICENSE Range-I-fied) std.container?

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Vladimir Panteleev
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:43:44 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: On 10/29/2011 04:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:20:15 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: Steven Schveighoffer - Surprisingly still there is the author of dcollections (BOOST LICENSE Range-I-fied)

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Sunday, October 30, 2011 02:58:32 Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:43:44 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: On 10/29/2011 04:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:20:15 +0300, bls bizp...@orange.fr wrote: Steven Schveighoffer - Surprisingly still there

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread bls
On 10/29/2011 04:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: td.container seems to have been written by the very same Steven Schveighoffer. Well, that's not quit right. Steven has done a lot of things on std.container, (especially algorithm wise, RB Tree f.i.), but the senior designer is Andrei. But

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 17:17:18 bls wrote: On 10/29/2011 04:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: td.container seems to have been written by the very same Steven Schveighoffer. Well, that's not quit right. Steven has done a lot of things on std.container, (especially algorithm wise, RB

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread bls
On 10/29/2011 05:26 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: f you want to have or use a 3rd party library, that's fine. But there's no reason to put such a library inside of the standard library. That's just confusing to people. std.container is how Phobos is going to do containers. It needs to be fleshed

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 17:49:40 bls wrote: On 10/29/2011 05:26 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: f you want to have or use a 3rd party library, that's fine. But there's no reason to put such a library inside of the standard library. That's just confusing to people. std.container is how

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread bls
On 10/29/2011 06:04 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: It has already been suggested in the past that we have an incubator project of sorts Thanks for the feedback, and, ahem... it was me asking for an incubator project.. works fine for other projects,beside. BCS suggested to use dSource Scrabble

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/29/11 7:17 PM, bls wrote: On 10/29/2011 04:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: td.container seems to have been written by the very same Steven Schveighoffer. Well, that's not quit right. Steven has done a lot of things on std.container, (especially algorithm wise, RB Tree f.i.), but the

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 18:48:54 bls wrote: I am convinced that a couple of very good/important D modules disappear from the D radar without being noticed, Such as? As it stands, to get anything into Phobos, someone needs to champion it and be willing to do all of the work necessary to

Re: phobos alt.

2011-10-29 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:20:15 -0700, bls wrote: I am watching D since about 4 years now. Still no std.collection. For whatever reasons several approaches to bring in an usable collection module has been mission impossible. Just want to mention Ben Hinkle D1 , Uwe Salomon D1 , and now Steven