Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 06:58:36 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:18 -0700 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: i assume that not everyone are ready to build dmd from sources, Digger? What can be easier? -- /P

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:14:29 + Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > i assume that not everyone are ready to build dmd from sources, > Digger? What can be easier? i've never used Digger, so i can't tell anything about it. ;-) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:14:29 + Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > i assume that not everyone are ready to build dmd from sources, > Digger? What can be easier? p.s. i mean that it will be good to have Digger mentioned somewhere at the front page, with some usage samples, s

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Leandro Lucarella via Digitalmars-d-announce
Walter Bright, el 7 de October a las 17:18 me escribiste: > On 10/7/2014 3:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: > >Walter Bright, el 7 de October a las 13:06 me escribiste: > >>On 10/6/2014 9:51 AM, Dicebot wrote: > >>>https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/985 > >> > >>Thank you. Thi

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 00:18:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Sort of like: user: "need to fix this on the website" n.g.: "thanks! fixed now!" user: "no it isn't" n.g.: "looks good to me" [lots of fruitless back and forth] n.g.: "did you refresh your browser's cache?" user: "o

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 07:14:30 UTC, Paolo Invernizzi wrote: On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 06:58:36 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:18 -0700 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: i assume that not everyone are ready to build dmd from

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/7/2014 11:58 PM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: maybe enable envvar-control in alphas/betas and disable in releases? I thought you were opposed to -release builds?

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 2:55 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 00:18:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Sort of like: user: "need to fix this on the website" n.g.: "thanks! fixed now!" user: "no it isn't" n.g.: "looks good to me" [lots of fruitless back and forth] n.g.: "

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 12:43 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: I think this is an unjustified fear, there are already many environment variables that can affect your program. That's why they are called... environment variables :) Being on the front lines of tech support for 30 years, it is not an unjustified

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:33:46 -0700 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > On 10/7/2014 11:58 PM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > maybe enable envvar-control in alphas/betas and disable in releases? > I thought you were opposed to -release builds? i'm opposed to "-release"

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:47:09 +0300 ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: p.s. i believe that there shouldn't be any flags that turns off range checking. if someone wants to do it "fast", he can use pointer arithmetics (this is exactly the same as using arrays with range checks off). that's what

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Rainer Schuetze via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 08.10.2014 19:39, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/8/2014 12:43 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: I think this is an unjustified fear, there are already many environment variables that can affect your program. That's why they are called... environment variables :) Being on the front lines of tech su

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 17:39:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Being on the front lines of tech support for 30 years, it is not an unjustified fear nor a hypothetical problem. What you could do is propose a "secret" switch to all dmd generated programs that the druntime switch checks befor

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Rainer Schuetze via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 06.10.2014 19:29, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 17:23:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 10/6/14, 9:51 AM, Dicebot wrote: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/985 This is awesome. I recall Don had some solid performance numbers for it in his talk, do y

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 11:19 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote: There is no perfect plan how an application can change the default options that are used without arguments, though. Doing this in main() is too late for some parameters (e.g. "precise"), because the GC will have to be setup to execute "static this" an

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Rainer Schuetze via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 08.10.2014 22:10, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/8/2014 11:19 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote: There is no perfect plan how an application can change the default options that are used without arguments, though. Doing this in main() is too late for some parameters (e.g. "precise"), because the GC will

Walter and I are on at FLOSS weekly

2014-10-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
Recorded this morning. Enjoy! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 Andrei

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 3:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote: alias the Walter & Andrei show! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 And thanks to our hosts Randal Schwartz and Dan Lynch for hosting us!

Re: Walter and I are on at FLOSS weekly

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 2:01 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Recorded this morning. Enjoy! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 Andrei Ya beat me to it. G!!! :-)

D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
alias the Walter & Andrei show! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 3:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote: alias the Walter & Andrei show! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 Looks like we overloaded their server! Yee-haw!

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 3:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote: alias the Walter & Andrei show! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 On reddit! https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2ipdpa/floss_weekly_311_the_d_language/ and on https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

Re: Walter and I are on at FLOSS weekly

2014-10-08 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 21:01:27 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Recorded this morning. Enjoy! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 Andrei I'm currently up to the part where its mentioned about TAP testing protocol [0]. Based upon my quick glance over at druntime [1]. I think we could

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread John via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 8 October 2014 at 22:26:36 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: alias the Walter & Andrei show! http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/311 Interesting talk! I wish you had some lighting on you. You are hardly visible!

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/8/2014 6:25 PM, John wrote: Interesting talk! Thanks! I wish you had some lighting on you. You are hardly visible! It's to hide the scars where my head was sewed back on.

Re: D on TV - FLOSS Weekly 311

2014-10-08 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 10/08/2014 10:41 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/8/2014 6:25 PM, John wrote: I wish you had some lighting on you. You are hardly visible! It's to hide the scars where my head was sewed back on. "Getting the brain out was the easy part. The hard part was getting the brain out!" - Hubert Fa

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 08/10/14 22:47, Rainer Schuetze wrote: C main is no longer under user control, because it is auto-generated with D main. I never liked that change, we've just discovered another reason. All platforms have API's to access the command line arguments passed to "main". On OS X that would be "_

Re: D2 port of Sociomantic CDGC available for early experiments

2014-10-08 Thread Rainer Schuetze via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 09.10.2014 08:29, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 08/10/14 22:47, Rainer Schuetze wrote: C main is no longer under user control, because it is auto-generated with D main. I never liked that change, we've just discovered another reason. All platforms have API's to access the command line argumen