Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Matthew Caron
On 01/02/2013 03:37 PM, Walter Bright wrote: But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the address book, but not the mail database. Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild. A welcome improvement would be to have a button to export/impo

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 21:37, Walter Bright wrote: Windows has gotten better in this regard, that is true. But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the address book, but not the mail database. A welcome improvement would be to have a button to export/import the whole farkin'

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 18:53, Walter Bright wrote: The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it). Looks like my mistake is I should have run it on OS X.

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 12:01 PM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: P.S. I like calendar programs, but on Windows and Ubuntu, upgrading the OS inevitably deletes the calendar database. None of those frackin' calendar programs ever deign to tell me where they store their frackin' database, so I can back it up. I really

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 20:09, Russel Winder wrote: I have the opposite experience, Apple hardware seems incapable of upgrading operating systems. Their policy seems to be "you want a new operating system, then buy a new piece of hardware from the store." I've been updating a couple of Macs from 10.6 t

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 19:51, Walter Bright wrote: I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one. That's what backups are for :) -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
1/2/2013 11:24 PM, Walter Bright пишет: On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one. Just because it happen

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jordi Sayol
Al 02/01/13 19:51, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > On 1/2/2013 10:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: >> […] >>> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. >> >> Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of >

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jordi Sayol
Al 02/01/13 20:28, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: >> I don't know why. > > > mercury ~> sudo apt-get install ruby > [sudo] password for walter: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 03:20:27 Jonathan M Davis wrote: > On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:19:54 bearophile wrote: > > Jonathan M Davis: > > > Why? > > > > Because the two numbers "2.060" and "2.061" look very very > > similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two > > n

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 11:05 AM, Russel Winder wrote: To be expected in the circumstances since 10.10 is no longer supported. Looks like I'll have to hold my nose and push the upgrade button, but after this release is settled down. Does the latest Ubuntu work properly with SSD drives? I know 10.10 doe

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: I don't know why. mercury ~> sudo apt-get install ruby [sudo] password for walter: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it will always happe

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jordi Sayol
Al 02/01/13 19:47, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: >> Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby >>> >>> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. >> >> $ sudo apt-get install r

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] > I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the > installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it will always happen. Until I abandoned all use of Ubuntu, I

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:47 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: > On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: > > Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > >>> > >>> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby > >> > >> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. > > > > $ sudo apt-

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 10:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick wit

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. $ sudo apt-get install ruby That's what I did try, and yes, it fails too.

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jordi Sayol
Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: >> >> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby > > Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. $ sudo apt-get install ruby -- Jordi Sayol

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] > Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick with LTS version of Ubuntu or keep up to date, s

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 09:53 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] > The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it > couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of > Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it). There has been a Ruby package on

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 9:59 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote: On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). What isn't working? I

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 7:27 AM, Johannes Pfau wrote: That's unfortunately normal for every dmd release. We try to stay API compatible, but ABI usually breaks with every compiler/druntime/phobos update. This means you can't mix object/library files compiled with different compiler versions. I go to some ef

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Iain Buclaw
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help? T

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help? The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed beca

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Johannes Pfau
Am Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:14:53 +0100 schrieb "David Eagen" : > On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 08:20:41 UTC, Jonathan M Davis > wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote: > >> I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from > >> 2.060 to 2.061 with no inter

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread David Eagen
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 08:20:41 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote: I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from 2.060 to 2.061 with no intermediate steps, probably some of their code will break, and they will have

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). I think this will fix the problem: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/installer/pull/9 I don't know if this is the problem you encountered but: PackageMaker is appa

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 12:55, bearophile wrote: Jonathan M Davis: And how is that any different from any other release? How much time used to pass between two adjacent releases, in past? Bye, bearophile Around a month, perhaps. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help? -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread bearophile
Jonathan M Davis: And how is that any different from any other release? How much time used to pass between two adjacent releases, in past? Bye, bearophile

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:19:54 bearophile wrote: > Jonathan M Davis: > > Why? > > Because the two numbers "2.060" and "2.061" look very very > similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two > nearly identical releases of the same compiler. But many months > have passed b

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread bearophile
Jonathan M Davis: Why? Because the two numbers "2.060" and "2.061" look very very similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two nearly identical releases of the same compiler. But many months have passed between those two versions, many bugs have being removed, several f

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote: > I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from > 2.060 to 2.061 with no intermediate steps, probably some of their > code will break, and they will have to work to fix it. Why? - Jonathan M davis

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-02 Thread bearophile
Are you going to remove the D1 compiler parts of code in the D2 compiler source code? A leaner source base will help. Also this transitional moment seems a good moment to rename the ".c" suffix of the frontend+backend C++ files to ".cpp" or something like that. I have to warn people that if the

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread Bernard Helyer
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 07:01:02 UTC, Bernard Helyer wrote: I am getting a whole _mess_ of "warning: statement not reachable" on everything after a final switch. It seems it's more complicated than that. I'll try and distill a test case down tomorrow.

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread Bernard Helyer
I am getting a whole _mess_ of "warning: statement not reachable" on everything after a final switch.

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/1/2013 7:11 PM, bearophile wrote: In the D2 changelog the "Phobos Bugs Fixed" seems empty. Corrected now.

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread bearophile
In the D2 changelog the "Phobos Bugs Fixed" seems empty. Also there are issues like this one that don't give enough info: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9219 I think in the Changelog a little summary of the biggest changes ("Release highlights") is useful to have. Another usefu

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/1/2013 5:39 PM, bearophile wrote: Walter Bright: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html Is this link correct? https://github.com/downloads/D-Programming-Language/dmd/dmd.2.061.zip No. I fixed it. You can also try: http://downloads.dlang.org.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/relea

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread bearophile
Walter Bright: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html Is this link correct? https://github.com/downloads/D-Programming-Language/dmd/dmd.2.061.zip Bye, bearophile

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

2013-01-01 Thread Walter Bright
On 1/1/2013 3:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote: 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package script). The OS X release is in the dmd.2.061.zip file, though.

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