Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-21 Thread torhu
On 22.12.2009 1:44, Georg Wrede wrote: Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote: Most of the code is written with a "get it to work - NOW" philoshophy, and as such there is a lot of potential for improvement and polish, not least when it comes to performance. I am aware of this, so there is really no need

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-21 Thread Georg Wrede
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote: Most of the code is written with a "get it to work - NOW" philoshophy, and as such there is a lot of potential for improvement and polish, not least when it comes to performance. I am aware of this, so there is really no need to benchmark it against established scien

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Baxter
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Simen kjaeraas wrote: > Bill Baxter wrote: > >> Biggest problem with OpenGL is that the quality is crap for 2D stuff, >> and quality really matters when you're trying to do something like >> draw 2000 little markers on a plot and each is only 5 pixels wide. >> >>

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Simen kjaeraas
Bill Baxter wrote: Biggest problem with OpenGL is that the quality is crap for 2D stuff, and quality really matters when you're trying to do something like draw 2000 little markers on a plot and each is only 5 pixels wide. Best you can do right now with GL without a lot of contortions is somet

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
dsimcha wrote: == Quote from Eldar Insafutdinov (e.insafutdi...@gmail.com)'s article dsimcha Wrote: Plotting. I've considered doing this a few times, but I've decided it needs to be put off until D2 is stable and the GUI toolkits for it are reasonably stable. One layer of instability (D2 it

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Chad J
dsimcha wrote: > == Quote from Chad J (chadj...@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com)'s article >> Is it really that hard to have the GUI libs in question just give you >> some pixels in memory or an opengl context? Then you could use your own >> highly optimized plot drawing routines instead of relying on th

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Baxter
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Lutger wrote: > Chad J wrote: > >> dsimcha wrote: >>> >>> ...  The other option is to make >>> sure everything is loosely coupled to the GUI lib so it can be easily >>> swapped for >>> another one.  The downside is that this has some tradeoffs in terms of >>> simpl

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Lukas Pinkowski
dsimcha wrote: >> Is it really that hard to have the GUI libs in question just give you >> some pixels in memory or an opengl context? Then you could use your own >> highly optimized plot drawing routines instead of relying on the GUI lib >> to do this. I figured this kind of thing would be unbea

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Michal Minich
Is it really that hard to have the GUI libs in question just give you some pixels in memory or an opengl context? Then you could use your own highly optimized plot drawing routines instead of relying on the GUI lib to do this. I figured this kind of thing would be unbeatable for performance, unl

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Chad J (chadj...@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com)'s article > dsimcha wrote: > > > > ... The other option is to make > > sure everything is loosely coupled to the GUI lib so it can be easily > > swapped for > > another one. The downside is that this has some tradeoffs in terms of > > sim

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Lutger
Lutger wrote: > Chad J wrote: > >> dsimcha wrote: >>> >>> ... The other option is to make >>> sure everything is loosely coupled to the GUI lib so it can be easily >>> swapped for >>> another one. The downside is that this has some tradeoffs in terms of >>> simplicity and probably performance

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-15 Thread Lutger
Chad J wrote: > dsimcha wrote: >> >> ... The other option is to make >> sure everything is loosely coupled to the GUI lib so it can be easily >> swapped for >> another one. The downside is that this has some tradeoffs in terms of >> simplicity and probably performance that I don't think I want

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-14 Thread Chad J
dsimcha wrote: > > ... The other option is to make > sure everything is loosely coupled to the GUI lib so it can be easily swapped > for > another one. The downside is that this has some tradeoffs in terms of > simplicity > and probably performance that I don't think I want to make and is prob

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-14 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad
dsimcha wrote: We've got the beginnings of a good matrix/numerics lib in your work. I believe that my dstats lib would provide just about all the statistical functionality a good scientific lib would need, and I'm getting close to declaring it beta-quality. I'd say based on a quick look at what

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Eldar Insafutdinov (e.insafutdi...@gmail.com)'s article > dsimcha Wrote: > > == Quote from Eldar Insafutdinov (e.insafutdi...@gmail.com)'s article > > > dsimcha Wrote: > > > > Plotting. I've considered doing this a few times, but I've decided it needs to be > > > > put off until D2 i

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread Eldar Insafutdinov
dsimcha Wrote: > == Quote from Eldar Insafutdinov (e.insafutdi...@gmail.com)'s article > > dsimcha Wrote: > > > Plotting. I've considered doing this a few times, but I've decided it > > > needs to be > > > put off until D2 is stable and the GUI toolkits for it are reasonably > > > stable. One

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Eldar Insafutdinov (e.insafutdi...@gmail.com)'s article > dsimcha Wrote: > > Plotting. I've considered doing this a few times, but I've decided it > > needs to be > > put off until D2 is stable and the GUI toolkits for it are reasonably > > stable. One > > layer of instability (D2

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad
dsimcha wrote: == Quote from Lars T. Kyllingstad (pub...@kyllingen.nospamnet)'s article I've just created a new dsource project and uploaded my collection of numerical routines. You can find it here: http://www.dsource.org/projects/scid Hopefully others will find it useful as well. Most of th

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread Eldar Insafutdinov
dsimcha Wrote: > Plotting. I've considered doing this a few times, but I've decided it needs > to be > put off until D2 is stable and the GUI toolkits for it are reasonably stable. > One > layer of instability (D2 itself) is workable, but two layers (D2 and the GUI > libs) > is not. > It wo

Re: SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Lars T. Kyllingstad (pub...@kyllingen.nospamnet)'s article > I've just created a new dsource project and uploaded my collection of > numerical routines. You can find it here: >http://www.dsource.org/projects/scid > Hopefully others will find it useful as well. Most of the code is

SciD: the humble beginning

2009-12-13 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad
I've just created a new dsource project and uploaded my collection of numerical routines. You can find it here: http://www.dsource.org/projects/scid Hopefully others will find it useful as well. Most of the code is written with a "get it to work - NOW" philoshophy, and as such there is a lo