[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Patrick Soileau
hm Is the purpose of a beacon not to help someone determine just what the propagation conditions are on a particular day between various parts of the world? If one hears a ham transmitting as part of an actual QSO, would this not also provide the exact same information? I fail to se

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Keane K1MK
At 11:51 PM 9/25/06, Patrick Soileau wrote: >I fail to see where beacons are more important than QSOs. They're not. Which is why the FCC rules do not permit US stations to operate automatically controlled beacons on HF; and why W6WX and KH6YY require STAs for their beacon operations. 73, Mike

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:40:54 -0700, Chris Jewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Whether the FCC (and other national administrations) treat violating >an IARU Region band plan as violating the "good amateur practice" >provision of the rules is unclear to me. However, an OO notice,

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Bernstein
1. it is often difficult to determine an operator's location from his or her callsign. TO5DX might be operating from any French territory. Anyone using my signal as an indication of propagation to California will reach the wrong conclusion. 2. The IARU beacons transmit at known power levels wi

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Bernstein
Beacons are allocated space in all three IARU regional band plans. This is as much to protect live operators from being QRM'd by beacons as it is to protect beacon users from QRM from live operators. Given that the beacons don't have busy frequency detectors and pragmatically couldn't QSY even

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Jose A. Amador
Dave Bernstein wrote: > So my longwinded answer to your question, Bill, is the human operator > is at fault, as he or she is ignoring the band plan. > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ Seems reasonable when explained that way. While it is not a problem for people with modern radios and well calibrated

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Robert Chudek - KØRC
Although I admire and support the concept, deployment, and technical achievement of the NCDXA International Beacon System, I view this system as a "secondary user" of the amateur radio spectrum with all the rights and privileges of a secondary user. Certainly the goal of avoiding interference t

Re: [digitalradio] IARU Beacons 14100kHz (14099.5 kHz - 14100.5 kHz guard band)

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Keane K1MK
At 09:10 PM 9/25/06, expeditionradio wrote: >Although these band plans do not have the full force of law, >there is general agreement that a properly operated amateur radio >station should normally operate within such band plans Well, "general agreement" is an interesting assertion by the NCDXF.

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Risto Kotalampi
Please explain how did you define someone being on 14100? Their mark was on 14100, their space was on 14100? And what sort of tolerance you used? How did you measure their frequencies? 73! Risto, W6RK On Sat, September 23, 2006 14:46, expeditionradio wrote: > RTTY Hall of Shame > > > Here is a

[digitalradio] Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2006-09-26 Thread Joe Veldhuis
Hello list. I have been trying to implement support for the Contestia and RTTYM modes in a fairly new digimode app, fldigi (www.w1hkj.com). It currently has an Olivia modem which is pretty much taken verbatim from Pawel Jalocha's reference code. So far, I have had very little luck getting it to wor

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread arswm3t
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RTTY Hall of Shame > > Here is a list of some of the RTTY operators transmitting > on the international IARU beacon frequency 14100.0kHz today. > > 73---Bonnie KQ6XA > > Saturday 23 SEP 2006 > > WM3T/4 (repe

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-26 Thread Brett Owen Rees VK2TMG
Anthony, Is a 1KHz guard band really required? At 22 WPM, these beacons are not very wide bandwidth-wise, something like 88 Hz. So, if you were operating at 14100.4 you were not really interfering - as if they ran a very narrow filter they would be able to hear the CW beacons with no QRM from you.