Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Ian Wade
>-Original Message- From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 Time: 17:18:23 >It's called Video ID and if you can see the waterfall you can read it.  It blew >me away the first time I saw it, I thought I was seeing things. That's exactly what I had in mind, but instead

Re: [digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Ian Wade
>-Original Message- From: Jose A. Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 Time: 16:02:39 > >Clever...simple and evident. > >There is a common russian phrase that applies "kratka sistra talanta", >conciseness is the sister of talent. > Pravil'no, moi dorogoi dryg! Vsego xoroshe

[digitalradio] Re: Update: Digital Modes in 2008

2008-06-01 Thread kc4cop996
Andy: Thanks for the digital mode update. It makes an excellent primer for digital ham radio. I would like permission to quote your post in its entirety on a page in my website (no plug). The website's theme is HF propagation. Your summary says a lot about the digital modes and propagation an

Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Paul, Some programs are capable of sending a "Video ID" using Hell, so, you can read the ID as a text preamble from the waterfall. MultiPSK also does send a RS ID using some codes sent as an MFSK preamble. FDMDV now does use the RS ID too, to help "zero beating" on the spectrum center. 73,

[digitalradio] FSK441,, JT6M, HSCW Fast Hell : Awards

2008-06-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Brackin, N5SIX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM Subject: [wsjtgroup] WSJTGroup HSMS Initial Award is official To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . This is to announce we are officially off and running so if you don'

Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Moore
It's called Video ID and if you can see the waterfall you can read it. It blew me away the first time I saw it, I thought I was seeing things. Jeff M -- KE7ACY - Original Message - From: Paul I think I missed the memo on how to "...display that code as text..." Are you suggesting

Re: [digitalradio] AX25 Protocol group

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Moore
Perfect! Just as the US is moving back to AX.25 packet technology for Emcomm purposes, people are planning on "shutting down" and making wholesale changes to the AX.25 protocol. Brilliant! Hopefully, it will only affect the VK crowd. Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY ARES - Original Message -

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Les Warriner
Go to Africa and learn the drums. They work too and are effective over a large area. At 03:28 PM 6/1/2008, you wrote: Could be true Chuck. I guess to take it just a step further, we need to ask Simon to start looking into writing another mode into his great software to decode/operate the ham

[digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread John Taylor
Could be true Chuck. I guess to take it just a step further, we need to ask Simon to start looking into writing another mode into his great software to decode/operate the hammers to hit the trees like the old natives in the jungle do. Oops, somebody would have to go cut down trees and the "hu

[digitalradio] AX25 Protocol group

2008-06-01 Thread Phillip
I am sending this to all groups just incase this is NOT a rumour. It was posted to Packet @ WW the apprsig message bounced .. ---Original Message--- From: Phillip Date: 2/06/2008 9:50:59 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AX25 Protocol group Hi, I have heard that the above g

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Chuck Mayfield
Do not laugh. It could come to pass that we (mankind) will need to reinvent spark gap.Who knows what evil lurks in the minds Chuck AA5J At 02:39 PM 6/1/2008, Jack Hamilton wrote: >On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:07:17 -0400, "Paul L Schmidt, K9PS" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> s

[digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Paul
I think I missed the memo on how to "...display that code as text..." Are you suggesting calling CQ in a different digital mode than Qlivia, then switching over? If the listener can read the (Olivia) "Text" then they are already reading at the proper BW/Tone?? 73, Paul > If we allocate a code f

[digitalradio] Fwd: [WinDRM] Weekend nets 31May-June1

2008-06-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mel Whitten, KØPFX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:24 PM Subject: [WinDRM] Weekend nets 31May-June1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another good turn out for the nets this weekend. Thanks to the following for participating: N1FFX/mobile, K2MO,

Re: [digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Clever...simple and evident. There is a common russian phrase that applies "kratka sistra talanta", conciseness is the sister of talent. 73, Jose, CO2JA --- Simon Brown wrote: > You see the bandwidth already - so why not just OL + number of tones? > > I don't think users will like a lookup

Re: [digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Interesting, but I believe it has already been done in MultiPSK with the RS ID codes sent in MFSK in the preamble. They seem to work well. I have used Video ID's and maybe your proposal is a bit more compact and readable that the usual video ID's. It should be tested out. I believe tha making

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread George Wedge
Very good Simon. Years ago we had racing pigeon's. To bad I still don't have the loft. Have a good day. George K1OLS PS I thing your program is great. > UK members of this list are already constructing pigeon lofts. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > --

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Even when I have nothing against DV, people have to recognize that it is not a QRP activity. I see quite a few signals I can never decode because they do not exceed the threshold. FDMDV is not PSK31. 73, Jose, CO2JA --- Jim Dear wrote: > Amen, and hopefully someday soon, come into the 21st

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Simon Brown
UK members of this list are already constructing pigeon lofts. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: "Jack Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I guess it's time for us all to learn how to build spark gap > transmitters, just in case. >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Jack Hamilton
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:07:17 -0400, "Paul L Schmidt, K9PS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > My reading of the message is that Morse code is "authorized" NOT > > mandated. It seems a reasonable decision for a organization often > > dependent on volunteers, if they want to use

Re: [digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Ian Wade
>-Original Message- From: Simon Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 Time: 21:32:32 >You see the bandwidth already - so why not just OL + number of tones? > That's even better! -- 73 Ian, G3NRW

Re: [digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Simon Brown
You see the bandwidth already - so why not just OL + number of tones? I don't think users will like a lookup table. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: "Ian Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Here is an idea that Olivia developers might care to consider.

[digitalradio] How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Ian Wade
Here is an idea that Olivia developers might care to consider. People often remark that it's difficult to set up the right parameters when receiving Olivia signals. There are potentially eight possible tone settings to choose from (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 and 256 tones) and five possible bandw

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > My reading of the message is that Morse code is "authorized" NOT > mandated. It seems a reasonable decision for a organization often > dependent on volunteers, if they want to use it.. let'em. MARS will > continue to use MT63, ALE, PSK, and many other digital modes. > > A

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Rick W.
I have to concur with Charlie. I did not see anything negative in the MARS reappraisal of CW. In fact, it seemed bizarre and counterproductive to me when they decided to not only drop CW, but to prohibit its use on MARS channels some years back! I do agree that there are almost no new hams who

[digitalradio] Digital Voice Net Reminder

2008-06-01 Thread Tony
All, Just a reminder about the Digital Voice Net on 14236.0KHz every Saturday and Sunday at 1800z. Mel, K0PFX is net control. Check-ins for AOR fast modem users will begin at 1800z. The FDMDV net will follow immediately afterward. Go to http://n1su.com/fdmdv/download.html for the latest releas

[digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread kb3co
David, If you feel so inferior because you lack CW skills perhaps you should make the effort and develop them. Mocking someone for having something you do not is so very lame. 73, Charlie --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "David Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't this just precious

RE: [digitalradio] Call for Papers--2008 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

2008-06-01 Thread Ford, Steve, WB8IMY
Yes, they will be available for purchase after the conference. 73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com on behalf of W2ZEY Sent: Sun 6/1/2008 12:06 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Call for Papers--2008 ARRL/TAPR

RE: [digitalradio] Call for Papers--2008 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

2008-06-01 Thread W2ZEY
Steve, Apologies for the belated reply to your post - been busy here with the recent Rochester Hamfest. Will the Proceedings of the conference be available for purchase by those who cannot attend? Thanks. 73, Larry / W2ZEY _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Jim Dear
Amen, and hopefully someday soon, come into the 21st century by instituting digital voice, as well as the other digital modes currently used. Pax, Jim Dear W5LOG NNN0RKQ Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My reading of the message is that Morse code is "auth

[digitalradio] Update: Digital Modes in 2008

2008-06-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Digital Modes in 2008: An Overview by Andy K3UK To arrange QSOs or see a list of activity from these varying modes, you are encouraged to try http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ (click on digitalradio) http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m/ http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.

[digitalradio] Re: CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
My reading of the message is that Morse code is "authorized" NOT mandated. It seems a reasonable decision for a organization often dependent on volunteers, if they want to use it.. let'em. MARS will continue to use MT63, ALE, PSK, and many other digital modes. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yaho

RE: [digitalradio] CW - last resort?

2008-06-01 Thread David Little
Isn't this just precious. . The move is divisive, and obviously geared toward attrition. Navy seems to be leading the charge Chief NAVMARMARS managed to honor tradition, and managed to make policy move back toward the stone age. Nice tantrum. What a comfort. I will sleep better at nig

Re: [digitalradio] Re: WSPR New Digital Mode - QSO Completed

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Moore
AFAIK, the current release version of WSPR does NOT have the QSO capability in it. What the message was apparently about was the first successful WSPR QSO using a beta version of the software with that capability. Jeff -- KE7ACY - Original Message - From: Paul I'm puzzled. When I