[Discuss] Firefox vs. Chrome

2011-07-20 Thread Rich Braun
Not too long ago, I bought a Core i5 with 8GB of RAM, thinking that this amount of horsepower thrown at the Firefox problem would make it go away. Wrong, I was still seeing sluggish 2000ms+ response time to such simple things as pulling up a dropdown or even echoing characters in a form. The proc

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: > > A few of my public-facing Linux systems have been compromised over the > years, usually through old versions of server software. However, none of > my SELinux-protected systems have been compromised to date. I've had two. One was a remote NFS e

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 07:28:18PM -0400, MBR wrote: > > My question is, what do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their > systems from malware? Use good passwords. Shut down services you aren't using. Use a firewall as another line of protection. Use NoScript and AdBlock or the equivalents

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 08:44:52PM -0400, MBR wrote: > On 7/20/2011 8:01 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > > Macintosh is a much harder target than Windows/NT simply because of > > the OS architecture. Similarly, Linux is a harder target than Windows > > for reasons similar to Macintosh. > Besides the f

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:44 PM, MBR wrote: > > Besides the fact that users generally aren't logged in as root, what > other aspects of the Unix/Mac/Linux architecture make Unix a harder > target than Windows? The oldest security flaw in Windows/NT, from 4.0 onward, has nothing to do with being lo

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:28 -0400, MBR wrote: > My question is, what do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their > systems from malware? A few of my public-facing Linux systems have been compromised over the years, usually through old versions of server software. However, none of my SELinux-pr

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread MBR
On 7/20/2011 8:01 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > Macintosh is a much harder target than Windows/NT simply because of > the OS architecture. Similarly, Linux is a harder target than Windows > for reasons similar to Macintosh. Besides the fact that users generally aren't logged in as root, what other

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread MBR
WRT the "if you use X then you may be vulnerable" type of vulnerabilities, is that why Ubuntu switched to Wayland? Mark P.S - That's a joke, I say, that's a joke, son. -- Foghorn Leghorn P.P.S. - Thanks for the quick answer. On 7/20/2011 8:01 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Jul 20, 2011, at 7

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:28 PM, MBR wrote: > > There's a general belief that Macs aren't > targeted as much as Windows systems are. Also, the fact that you're > generally not logged in as root limits the potential damage. More the latter than the former. There *is* Macintosh malware out there, b

Re: [Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread Jack Coats
Basically the same thing you do for Mac. Nothing. It is possible for java related malware to find its way onboard, but I have never seen it. If you are paranoid about it, turn off java in your browser. Poeple also do run AVR on Linux systems, but typically it is for scanning files shared with wi

[Discuss] What do typical Linux users do WRT protecting their systems from malware

2011-07-20 Thread MBR
Although I've done software development under various flavors of Unix since 1980, I haven't done much administration on anything Unix-like in a long time. And for the past decade or so I've used laptops running some flavor of Windows. Currently I'm still on XP. Having just installed Ubuntu (N

Re: [Discuss] 108.0.0.0/8

2011-07-20 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:56:56PM -0400, David Kramer wrote: > While I'm on this winning streak, let me ask one question I've never > been able to get an answer on: I *HATE* the fact that all these iptables > log messages take over /var/log/messages. I've seen ways of writing > them elsewhere in

[Discuss] SPAM from announce list

2011-07-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
There was an error in the settings for the announce list that allowed a SPAM message through. This has since been fixed. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 __

[Discuss] Boston Linux and Unix Annual Summer BBQ XVII Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:00 PM corrected

2011-07-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
Annual Summer BBQ XVII When: Saturday, July 30, 2011 from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm Where: John and Shelley Chambers' home 33 Cedarwood Avenue, Waltham, MA. Boston Linux & Unix is holding its seventeenth annual summer BBQ on Saturday, July 30th, beginning at 1:00 p.m. Everyone is welcome. Guests are en