Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 02/28/2013 12:00 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:55:29 -0600 Derek Martin wrote: Additionally, if your work desktop is shared, i.e. other users can log into it over the network, doing this will enable ANYONE to access all your files on the usb disk. From their desktop. Withou

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread John Abreau
find /path/to/thumb drive -xdev -type f -exec chmod 666 '{}' ';' find /path/to/thumb drive -xdev -type d -exec chmod 777 '{}' ';' Doesn't look all that tedious to me. On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 07:08:14PM -0500, Matthew Gillen wrote: >> On 2/25

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Rich Pieri
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:27:04 -0500 Jerry Feldman wrote: > USB thumb drives are inherently insecure without encryption. It does They're also inherently insecure with full disk encryption. Once mounted, anyone who has access to the system has access to the files on the device. > But, with a Linu

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: > On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:27:04 -0500 > Jerry Feldman wrote: > >> USB thumb drives are inherently insecure without encryption. It does > > They're also inherently insecure with full disk encryption. Once > mounted, anyone who has access to the sy

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Rich Pieri
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:35:59 -0500 Shirley Márquez Dúlcey wrote: > Two different security issues are being conflated here. No, they're not. They're the same security issue. A mounted file system's security is only as good as the access control provided by the host. But then, the original questi

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:49:52AM -0500, John Abreau wrote: > find /path/to/thumb drive -xdev -type f -exec chmod 666 '{}' ';' > find /path/to/thumb drive -xdev -type d -exec chmod 777 '{}' ';' > > Doesn't look all that tedious to me. You'll have to do that every time you add files to it... Se

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:00:03AM -0500, Rich Pieri wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:55:29 -0600 > Derek Martin wrote: > > > Additionally, if your work desktop is shared, i.e. other users can log > > into it over the network, doing this will enable ANYONE to access all > > your files on the usb d

Re: [Discuss] USB thumbdrive, Linux only usage: FAT vs NTFS vs other? TRIM support?

2013-02-28 Thread Rich Pieri
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:51:10 -0600 Derek Martin wrote: > It's very different. With a FAT filesystem, the OS gives you the > option to specify the UID/GUID to mount with, so YOU DO NOT NEED TO > MAKE THE FILES WORLD READABLE/WRITABLE. AFAIK you can't do that with > any other writable filesystem.