Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-06-02 Thread Eric Chadbourne
On May 31, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/31/2015 4:45 PM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: Probably depends on the brand and the time. Not the brand. The ODM, the original design manufacturer. Good point. They produce so much cheap crap. Apple designs their

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 10:46:08AM -0400, Eric Chadbourne wrote: On May 31, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/31/2015 4:45 PM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: Probably depends on the brand and the time. Not the brand. The ODM, the original design manufacturer.

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Pieri
On 6/2/2015 10:46 AM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: Good point. They produce so much cheap crap. Apple designs their own hardware no? Apple buys from Foxconn, Pegatron and Quanta. Apple has a more active hand in their industrial designs than the other national brands but they still buy from the

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Pieri
On 6/2/2015 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: System76 is peachy. They don't design their hardware, but they specify it and maintain drivers for everything that they sell. Which is essentially zero work for them if they pick the hardware right which is not difficult. Get a main board with Realtek

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-06-02 Thread Eric Chadbourne
On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/2/2015 10:46 AM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: Good point. They produce so much cheap crap. Apple designs their own hardware no? Apple buys from Foxconn, Pegatron and Quanta. Apple has a more active hand in their

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
Is it my imagination, or are 8 year old laptops much more physically robust than their modern counterparts? I have two laptops from 2006 that are still humming along with Lubuntu, while most of my later-purchased laptops physically fell apart. Of course, the later purchased ones were used by my

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread edwardp
The one issue I have with my T43, happens to be the battery. Bought two of them from an Amazon vendor a few years ago. One didn't last more than an hour (on Linux) and the vendor replaced both. From the new batteries, gradually, one would only last one hour using Linux and the second battery

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Probably depends on the brand and the time. My Macbook Air 2014 seems to be of very high build quality. So does my almost 10 year old Thinkpad. Nevertheless I recently set up a class with a bunch of new Lenovo laptops and was less then impressed with the cheap feeling hardware and and the

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread edwardp
My ThinkPad T43 (IBM-logo'd, but references it was manufactured by Lenovo on the bottom) is still going. Its BIOS is from 2005 and is happily running Fedora today. On 05/31/2015 03:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Is it my imagination, or are 8 year old laptops much more physically robust than their

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sun, 31 May 2015 17:12:19 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote: Is it my imagination, or are 8 year old laptops much more physically robust than their modern counterparts? My ThinkPad T43 (IBM-logo'd, but references it was manufactured by Lenovo on the bottom) is still going. Its BIOS is from 2005 and

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:25 PM, edwa...@linuxmail.org wrote: The one issue I have with my T43, happens to be the battery. Bought two of them from an Amazon vendor a few years ago. One didn't last more than an hour (on Linux) and the vendor replaced both. From the new batteries, gradually,

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Richard Pieri
On 5/31/2015 4:45 PM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: Probably depends on the brand and the time. Not the brand. The ODM, the original design manufacturer. There are the big national brands: Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, Compaq, Lenovo... who did I forget? Doesn't matter. None them design or manufacture

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-31 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
Older laptops may have that problem. Newer ones (just about anything you'd actually use on the internet nowadays) have smarter charge controllers that don't actually charge the battery if it is already full, so keeping them plugged in all the time does not hurt the battery life. On Sun, May 31,

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-30 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: Microcenter http://www.microcenter.com/ has store pickup However, I would be a bit selective. ​My SIL had to exchange the first Lenovo refurb ​he got at MC, but they took care of it. With Lenovo, the advice i saw is to stick

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
Also possibly consider a refurbished unit. Some PC makers sell them direct, such as Dell. Microcenter http://www.microcenter.com/ has store pickup Amazon also does refurbished. http://www.amazon.com/s?rh=n%3A565108%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A2224372011 However, I would be a bit selective. On

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-26 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
hehehehe, wanna try that again with the message in the message body instead of the subject? Subject truncated. -Original Message- From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of John J. Herda Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:58 PM To: BLU Discussion

Re: [Discuss] My HP Pavilion's HD bit the dust and it is 13 years old, so instead of replacing the disk again, I would like a new laptop. But I would like to pay $300. I do not expect the best or the

2015-05-26 Thread John Abreau
I have an Acer Aspire laptop that I'm very happy with. I purchased it several years ago for about $250. It originally had 2 GB of RAM, which I later upgraded to 8 GB, and the RAM upgrade may have kicked the total cost above the $299 limit. The current model is selling at Amazon for $294.