Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-08-05 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that either of these needs could be addressed quickly and fairly cheaply with an off-the-shelf appliance, like: $140 QNAP TS-231 2-bay http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=556803 I liked

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-04 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, F. O. Ozbek oz...@gmx.com wrote: Didn't IBM leave the hardware business entirely (including the servers last year)? You probably purchased Lenovo servers labeled as IBM servers. If Intel architecture, yes. They were doing the off-shore builds prior to sale, so

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-04 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/4/2015 9:38 AM, F. O. Ozbek wrote: Didn't IBM leave the hardware business entirely (including the servers last year)? IBM sold the System x business to Lenovo. IBM retains its System z and Power Systems businesses. You probably purchased Lenovo servers labeled as IBM servers. Other

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-04 Thread F. O. Ozbek
On 07/03/2015 08:26 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: Last year I specced out some high-end compute servers (2 by Xeon 10-core, 384GB) with a pile of storage (80TB) from Dell and IBM. The compute portions were essentially identical prices. The Dell storage was 2 x 12-bay SAS storage arrays with SATA

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-04 Thread Mike Small
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 08:26:31PM -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: Last year I specced out some high-end compute servers (2 by Xeon 10-core, 384GB) with a pile of storage (80TB) from Dell and IBM. The compute portions were essentially identical prices. The Dell storage was 2 x 12-bay SAS storage

[Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-03 Thread Tom Metro
This is a perennial topic, but I'm in need of some NAS storage and figured I'd see what the current leanings are of the group. I haven't yet figured out exactly what my requirements are, but I'm probably looking to end up with two NAS units for office storage, where one acts as primary and one as

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-03 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/3/2015 4:30 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: I plan to build a freenas box. I can get a 24-bay 4U case and build into it for about the same price as a synology that can only hold half the disk space and a fraction of the ram.. Neither of which are microservers. the disk and ram was the vast

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-03 Thread Derek Atkins
. - Reply message - From: Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com To: discuss@blu.org Subject: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2015 2:28 PM On 7/3/2015 2:47 PM, Tom Metro wrote: I'd ask if FreeNAS has been ported to any of them, but given the way FreeNAS seems to have moved towards

Re: [Discuss] NAS: buy vs. build

2015-07-03 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/3/2015 2:47 PM, Tom Metro wrote: I'd ask if FreeNAS has been ported to any of them, but given the way FreeNAS seems to have moved towards requiring more enterprise hardware (ECC RAM, and lots of it), that seems unlikely. ECC RAM is a requirement for full ZFS integrity, and lots of it is