On 11/20/2014 7:35 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote:
You are interpreting Rich's email differently than I suspect he
intended. Or at least differently then I interpreted it.
Certainly possible, and it wouldn't be the first time.
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> Go jump off a cliff. Everyone else is doing it; why haven't you? :)
* COUGH * * COUGH * troll bait *COUGH* *COUGH*
I agree with Rich Braun:
> Why not
> embrace these technologies before one's old habits become obsolete, and
> gradually limit career options?
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 1:40 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
>>
>> And another reason for my head being in the clouds on this one (yeah, I
>> love
>> that Cloud buzzword): getting in the daily habit of something the business
>> world's already doing
>
>
> Go jum
On 11/19/2014 1:40 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
And another reason for my head being in the clouds on this one (yeah, I love
that Cloud buzzword): getting in the daily habit of something the business
world's already doing
Go jump off a cliff. Everyone else is doing it; why haven't you? :)
Because jum
Richard Pieri notes my head-in-clouds idealism:
> It isn't an idealistic "encrypt
> everything and the world will be better" philosophy. It's a specific
> reason to take specific action. That is, it's a specific threat
And another reason for my head being in the clouds on this one (yeah, I love
t
On 11/18/2014 1:09 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote:
So, if you want business insurance (general
liability, I'm not even talking about a "data breach" policy), then you
will encrypt your backups.
Assuming you need business insurance and this is a requirement for your
policy then by all mean
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
wrote:
> > From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> > bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gillen
> >
> > Not everyone can have a bank vault to put their computers in.
>
> Even fewer can put their
On 11/6/2014 7:02 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
No, that's the opposite of what RP said. He said encryption is an
unnecessary complexity and the only thing that matters is physical
security.
No, that's not what I wrote.
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> From: Bill Ricker [mailto:bill.n1...@gmail.com]
>
> So yes, backups that aren't encrypted may be a problem EVEN IF NO ONE
> WANTS YOUR DATA.
>
> Darn, I'm agreeing with R.P. again ...
No, that's the opposite of what RP said. He said encryption is an unnecessary
complexity and the only thing
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
wrote:
> Even fewer can put their backup media into a locked vault which is inside
> their secure server closet and then transported, still locked to the bank
> vault, which is then locked during the transport into the safe box.
On-site ba
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Gillen
>
> Not everyone can have a bank vault to put their computers in.
Even fewer can put their backup media into a locked vault which is inside their
secure server clos
On 11/04/2014 10:27 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
The encrypt everything ideology is nothing more than security theater:
do something that provides a warm and fuzzy feeling without addressing
the real problem of poor or nonexistent physical security. If you
maintain good physical security then the dev
On 11/4/2014 7:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
Rich P apparently
likes trolling and thinks there can only be one solution for
everyone, and everyone who disagrees with him is wrong
What is the popular solution to notebook computers with sensitive
information on them being lost or stolen?
Separate issue on VMware backups mentioned on today's SANS Internet
Storm Center daily net-sec podcast.
https://isc.sans.edu/podcastdetail.html?id=4221
VMWare Change Block Tracking problem may lead to corrupt backups
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Rich Braun
>
> Additional layers of security, whether "necessary" or not, are worthy of
> discussion. Encryption is pretty darned easy to use, doesn't add burdensome
> complexity
On 11/3/2014 1:53 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
Additional layers of security, whether "necessary" or not, are worthy of
discussion. Encryption is pretty darned easy to use, doesn't add burdensome
complexity (depending on the tool you select),
Backing up encrypted desktops and notebooks is a pain in t
Richard Pieri
> Physical security comes first. Encryption is no substitute for physical
> access controls.
Agreed. They are two separate layers of security. You can do one, or the
other, or both, or neither. You decide.
> If you refuse to maintain physical control over your
> data and equipmen
On 11/2/2014 12:34 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
You ignored my own point about the unnecessary complexity of mobile phones
(for 99.99% of users). It's a f'ing red herring. Repeat.
Most users aren't exposed to the complexity inside a smart phone. When
you go about encrypting your backups you are exp
Richard Pieri wrote:
> And you've completely missed the point.
Whatever...I think you enjoy saying that to me... :-)
> I wrote "anything that adds unnecessary complexity".
You ignored my own point about the unnecessary complexity of mobile phones
(for 99.99% of users). It's a f'ing red herring
On 11/1/2014 5:07 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
I resemble that remark. :-) By that I mean I've often been criticized for
embracing complexity. Such criticisms are red herrings; the average Android
phone is among the most-complicated devices invented by mankind, and its
complexity goes well beyond the "n
Richard Pieri suggested:
> [On encryption] I disagree in the general case. Anything that
> adds unnecessary complexity to a backup system is a failure
> begging to bite you.
I resemble that remark. :-) By that I mean I've often been criticized for
embracing complexity. Such criticisms are red he
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Rich Braun
>
> AES
> encryption no longer adds meaningful overhead to your operations; it's
> built-in to current-generation CPUs.
I've spent a good amount of time benchmarking enc
On 10/31/2014 06:14 PM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> On 10/31/2014 5:43 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
>> One word on modern backup strategy: encryption.
>
> I disagree in the general case. Anything that adds unnecessary
> complexity to a backup system is a failure begging to bite you.
>
I agree here. If you pro
On 10/31/2014 5:43 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
One word on modern backup strategy: encryption.
I disagree in the general case. Anything that adds unnecessary
complexity to a backup system is a failure begging to bite you.
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One word on modern backup strategy: encryption. Cloud services like CrashPlan
take care of this automatically; traditional tape-backup solutions usually
didn't, in the past.
I don't know anything about VMware-specific utilities (for VMs I just back up
the instance like any other system, and make s
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Scott Ehrlich
>
> We have some new Dell rack servers running new installs of ESX 5.5 U1,
> and looking to buy a redundant server to use as a backup for the
> primary.
It sounds lik
I think you need to compute the price per byte, and I agree with you
that tape is more cost effective. Although I might use removable disk
media if it were removable and would be stored. Also tapes are written
and read serially (with the exception of the ancient DECTapes). For
backup purposes, I al
On 10/29/2014 2:54 PM, Nathan Burridge wrote:
Have you looked into VMWare's Data Protection which is offered for free?
Yeah... and I dismissed it based on the outright lies that make up the
ad copy:
"Traditional data backup and data recovery solutions are expensive, slow
and complex."
Fal
3-2-1 rule - 3 copies, on 2 different types of media, 1 copy offsite.
That is the minimum.
I have done 2 on disk (local in different disk pools on different
machines), 1 on tape, 1 local, 1 offsite).
For home, I am lazy. So it 'slightly' violates my own rules. OK if you
consider 'cloud' a diff
On 10/29/2014 11:04 AM, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
What are your thoughts on product(s) to use for primary to backup and
for options for off-site - cloud vs storage facility that gives us
space on a system?
Cloud is a non-starter. Megaupload. Code/Spaces. Not worth the risk.
Magtape is the best bang
Another one to consider.
I have user Trilead VM Explorer with good results. The things I like is
there is no additional cost to do additional servers and it will do ESX,
ESXi and Hyper-V.
http://www.trilead.com/features/
The cost is reasonable at $1,390
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Thank you,
*Bob Dunphy* - *Sr. System
We have some new Dell rack servers running new installs of ESX 5.5 U1,
and looking to buy a redundant server to use as a backup for the
primary.
The budget is healthy enough for appropriate hardware and storage
(likely a duplicate of the primary). The primary is very appropriate
for its tasks.
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