Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread todd rme
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Scott Furry wrote: > How do you expect LibreOffice to be updated? For windows, it should check whether there is an update both when the program starts up and at regular intervals, with an option to force a check. By default it should probably download the update t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums, Wikis, mailing lists

2010-10-10 Thread Paul A Norman
Please understand I'm not worried about the pace of things - go much slower if it is better organised in the end -- no I'm just wanting to know what things are individual people's contributions and which things are actually "the" Foundation so I can keep in the right chanel(s). Thank you for clari

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums, Wikis, mailing lists

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-10 18:03, Paul A Norman a écrit : HI, I am becoming a little confused over where Document Foundation stuff lives - and communications take place, and the relationships between different channels. Is there a central list any where of where the 'main' stuff takes place please? Paul

[tdf-discuss] Forums, Wikis, mailing lists

2010-10-10 Thread Paul A Norman
HI, I am becoming a little confused over where Document Foundation stuff lives - and communications take place, and the relationships between different channels. Is there a central list any where of where the 'main' stuff takes place please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@docum

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Paul A Norman
On 10 October 2010 10:23, Scott Furry wrote: >  LibreOffice Community, > > As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community > about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users. > > Given that LibreOffice is an important and viable alternative to paid-for > office productivi

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-10 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
Florian Effenberger, 10-10-2010 16:06: Hi, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote on 2010-10-10 21.01: Could someone contact them to know whether they will actually cooperate? Per is currently working on a QATrack for TDF/LibO. :-) Will be available soon. Nice, thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to dis

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote on 2010-10-10 21.01: Could someone contact them to know whether they will actually cooperate? Per is currently working on a QATrack for TDF/LibO. :-) Will be available soon. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-10 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
Andrea Pescetti, 09-10-2010 04:48: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: Per Eriksson, what do you need on the server to run QATrack? I don'tspeak for Per, but until I maintained it QATrack was a rather standard LAMP application and, as far as I could see,this is still the case. But Andre' already clarif

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-09 9:14 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > It is important that people who prefer to use Gmane instead of > receiving emails be able to do so simply. It is important to those people, yes... but you seem to be refusing to grasp the simple fact that there are a very limited number of people workin

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/10 5:23 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas schrieb: What would you be giving away? Maintenance and control over the content of the archives. Will Gnome store them for tenths of years? at the same place? According to your website you have your archives set up.The

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-10 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-09 5:23 PM, Scott Furry wrote: > As you suggest, there is the core software, and is also a host of > software applications (some even have their own QA/Testing programs - > Mozilla being a prominent example). > > If that's what openSUSE does, great! But users of other distributions > h

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Marc, Am 10.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Marc Paré: > Le 2010-10-10 06:22, Erich Christian a écrit : >> Maybe a new thread for the survey would be helpful to get attention from >> those not following the "install" thread. > This is a new thread exactly for that reason. Thx, guess my Thunderbird sort

[tdf-discuss] libreoffice3.3-redhat-menus-3.3-9526.noarch.rpm package error

2010-10-10 Thread Cleiton
Hello. I found a bug in the package libreoffice3.3-redhat-menus-3.3-9526.noarch.rpm, wich put the LibreOffice entries in menus on Fedora. The entry try to call "libreoffice", but in the /usr/bin, the correct name is "libreoffice3". The entries don't work well with the "%U", a message say "libreoffi

[tdf-discuss] tdf-wiki: tasks

2010-10-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, because there are a lot of discussions and a lot of emails on the tdf-/libreOffice- lists, open tasks, that need some volunteers, disappear relatively fast due to the other stuff that are heavily debated on the lists. Because we get our own wiki now, we should use this to write down every

Re: [tdf-discuss] Database and accounting program

2010-10-10 Thread Drew Jensen
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:40 -0500, Matthew Copple wrote: > LO does have a database component called Base. Furthermore, it is > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Miguel Mayol Tur wrote: > > There are no database program in Oo, Lo mut have a ProgrestSQL interface > > Hi, Have created a page on the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Database and accounting program

2010-10-10 Thread Matthew Copple
LO does have a database component called Base. Furthermore, it is relatively easy to use LO Base as a front end to PostGRESql, MySQL, or for that matter, just about any other RDBMS backend. Just google "postgresql openoffice base" and you will find plenty of references and how-tos. Matthew Copple

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Marc, Bernhard, *, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 14:41:56 schrieb Marc Paré: > Le 2010-10-10 08:39, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : (...) > > I can open PDF files using just the "open file" command without the need > > for any extension. > > > > Has this extension already been integrated in the sour

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-10 08:28, Simos Xenitellis a écrit : What we need to do here is to prepare the technical details so that the Lib O marketing team can push this important feature. At least for now it is easier to reuse the platform PDF viewer instead of adding such functionality in LibO. That is, we

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-10 08:39, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke schrieb: Hi Marc, *, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 14:07:39 schrieb Marc Paré: (...) [...] you can use the PDF-Import-Extension. You can create with that extension hybrid files, that opens with the programm module, tha

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Miguel Mayol Tur
Thanks for the tech info. I did not know that, and i am using Staroffice, after Oo since it became Open source. I only have one thing to say MAKE IT EASIER As I have just say I do think Interfaces must be think for lammers, complete lammers. And there must be advanced options for advanced us

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-10 06:22, Erich Christian a écrit : Am 09.10.2010 23:23, schrieb Scott Furry: As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users. Maybe a new thread for the survey would be helpful to get attention from those no

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke schrieb: Hi Marc, *, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 14:07:39 schrieb Marc Paré: (...) [...] you can use the PDF-Import-Extension. You can create with that extension hybrid files, that opens with the programm module, that was used to create the file, or with a pdf-read

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
If you want to get both, you can use the PDF-Import-Extension. You can crea te with that extension hybrid files, that opens with the programm module, that was used to create the file, or with a pdf-reader. Regards, Andreas Hi Andreas I have tried and used the hybrid. Although, I found that

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-10 07:49, Andreas Mantke a écrit : > > Hi, >> >> Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 13:29:28 schrieb Miguel Mayol Tur: >> >>> As PDF is a open standard, there would be a good idea not to depend of >>> >>> propietary software to make and f

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Marc, *, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 14:07:39 schrieb Marc Paré: (...) > > Actually, LibO (OpenOffice) has very powerful "form" creating tools and > it follows a recognized ISO document standard > (http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1004). It would > make sense, to me, to try

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Miguel Mayol Tur
You are right in not to work in what is done. But ... I do not ask for new programs, for example add Okular to the suite. I'm economist and I also studied Tech Eng in Systems Computer Science, b ut not finished. I always think in the 40% of lammer using computers. You must give them a very ea

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 17:23, Scott Furry a écrit : LibreOffice Community, As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users. Given that LibreOffice is an important and viable alternative to paid-for office productivity software, a

Re: [tdf-discuss] just a greeting from ja and qa project lead

2010-10-10 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:21:54 +0200, Sophie Gautier a écrit : > Hi Maho > > 2010/10/10 André Schnabel : > > Hi Maho, > > > > Am 10.10.2010 03:41, schrieb Maho NAKATA: > >> > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I'll do the best. > > > > It's great to have you here - warm welcome from my side. :) > > I join Andr

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-10 07:49, Andreas Mantke a écrit : Hi, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 13:29:28 schrieb Miguel Mayol Tur: As PDF is a open standard, there would be a good idea not to depend of propietary software to make and fill PDFs forms and edit PDF documents. And LIBRE OFFICE SHOULD do that.

[tdf-discuss] PDF E-fax

2010-10-10 Thread Miguel Mayol Tur
Most of the users want it easy. A simple e-fax program that prints/scans in PDF and send it to other e-f ax program or to FAX machines would simplify a lot their work. Even from/to smartphones / Tablets. IP to FAX with some VoIP free software and cheap companies, or even as income to Lo woul

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-10 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas schrieb: On 2010/10/09 3:47 PM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Larry Gusaas schrieb: Then why did you set up Gmane in the first place? Why not do it properly in the first place? Because it's an external resource. Mailing lists are the center of our community's activity, so we

[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing single components [was: LibO Install/Update ...]

2010-10-10 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Todd, all, todd rme schrieb: [... removed citation of different topic ...] There is another, somewhat independent issue that has occurred to me. So this should have been posted in a new thread ;-) What about how the components are split up? As far as I know this doesn't have any majo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Scott Furry wrote: Given that LibreOffice is an important and viable alternative to paid-for office productivity software You seem to imply here that LibreOffice will be distributed for free. Note that, as far as I know, the Document Foundation never issued public statements about this (altho

Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, Am Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2010, 13:29:28 schrieb Miguel Mayol Tur: > As PDF is a open standard, there would be a good idea not to depend of > > propietary software to make and fill PDFs forms and edit PDF documents. > > > And LIBRE OFFICE SHOULD do that. there are a lot of not proprietary pdf r

[tdf-discuss] Database and accounting program

2010-10-10 Thread Miguel Mayol Tur
There are no database program in Oo, Lo mut have a ProgrestSQL interface and installer with a good Access importer, and a new accounting program based in this database, perhaps starting from other projects as KEME, wi th international accounts numbers created for it allowing consolidation for

[tdf-discuss] PDF forms and edit

2010-10-10 Thread Miguel Mayol Tur
As PDF is a open standard, there would be a good idea not to depend of propietary software to make and fill PDFs forms and edit PDF documents. And LIBRE OFFICE SHOULD do that. -- Usando el novísimo cliente de correo de Opera: http://www.opera.com /mail/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Larry, Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-10 03.14: Having to jump through hoops like this and getting responses like yours lowers my desire to have any thing to do with Document Foundation please understand that we're all working hard on making things happen. As you can imagine, a lot of things h

[tdf-discuss] Why green? (Blog Posting Advertisement)

2010-10-10 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi everyone, just to do some selfish promotion with regard to our "growing" planet ... if you are interested in knowing "Why green?" (blue, maroon, purple), then have a look at: http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ And since the world (planet) moves on, here is the direct link to the blog postin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Erich Christian
Am 09.10.2010 23:23, schrieb Scott Furry: > As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community > about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users. Maybe a new thread for the survey would be helpful to get attention from those not following the "install" thread. [...] > ---

Re: [tdf-discuss] just a greeting from ja and qa project lead

2010-10-10 Thread Per Eriksson
Hi Nakata, Maho NAKATA skrev 2010-10-10 03:41: Hi Folks, I'll do the best. Nice to have you over here! ;-) Best Per -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are avail

Re: [tdf-discuss] just a greeting from ja and qa project lead

2010-10-10 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Maho 2010/10/10 André Schnabel : > Hi Maho, > > Am 10.10.2010 03:41, schrieb Maho NAKATA: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'll do the best. > > It's great to have you here - warm welcome from my side. :) I join André and his welcome, it's great to have you here :) Kind regards Sophie -- To unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question on Libo apps names

2010-10-10 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 10.10.2010 09:51, schrieb Valter Mura: Hi All, maybe it is a stupid question or someone already raised it. Will the names of the single apps inside LibreOffice be the same? Why should we change the names? No -there are currently no plans to do so. André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] just a greeting from ja and qa project lead

2010-10-10 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Maho, Am 10.10.2010 03:41, schrieb Maho NAKATA: Hi Folks, I'll do the best. It's great to have you here - warm welcome from my side. :) André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be delet

[tdf-discuss] Question on Libo apps names

2010-10-10 Thread Valter Mura
Hi All, maybe it is a stupid question or someone already raised it. Will the names of the single apps inside LibreOffice be the same? I mean, Calc, Writer, Impress, Math, Base and so on. Changing them does involve the personality of the Suite, I wonder... Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux U

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-10 Thread Scott Furry
On 09/10/10 10:48 PM, todd rme wrote: There is another, somewhat independent issue that has occurred to me. What about how the components are split up? The issues are somewhat different for windows and mac than they are for linux. For windows and mac, if someone, for instance, only wants a dat