Il 21/10/2010 18.46, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
While I do absolutely agree that there should be no divide, (heck, I'm
no developer myself), I also think that certain activities are
appreciated but cannot constitute the only basis for membership
consideration. But here, we're going down into d
On 10/21/2010 5:18 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> I'd just like to make sure I'm clear on this, OK? If I get a message
> with a Reply-To header, and respond to it using Reply, not only does the
> response go to those in the Reply-To header,
Yes it goes to everyone in the Reply-To header...
> but tha
On 10/21/2010 8:14 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> "Barbara Duprey" wrote in message
> news:4cc0ba20.70...@onr.com...
>> Well now, that's *very* interesting! I clearly haven't used forums in
>> too long, I've never seen this. It still doesn't help with a forum
>> analog of this conversation, though, sin
On 10/21/2010 6:28 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> Many forums, and wiki pages, allow you to tick a box to "watch" them,
> even if you didn't originate them, and then you'll get a notification of
> each response. I agree, though, that it's a nuisance to not have the
> response itself show up in one'
"Barbara Duprey" wrote in message
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On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
Every web forum I know of send notification email to the original poster
whenever a response is posted to a thread they created.
Well now, that's *very* interesting! I clearly hav
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 17:09 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> > Every web forum I know of send notification email to the original poster
> > whenever a response is posted to a thread they created.
>
> Well now, that's *very* interesting! I clearly haven't
On 10/20/2010 11:50 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:55 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
Howdy Barbara
I don't have anything against forums (though I hope we can avoid having two
top-level ones, as for
OOo, and careful planning is needed in determining the subforums). The main
di
On 10/21/2010 12:02 AM, Drew Jensen wrote:
If we had a similar page for OOo, it would make an
enormous difference there, as well.
Why not - http://oucv.org/oooext.html
I did not setup that nabble archive, and can't change settings - if you
back up there to the openoffice level you are actuall
On 10/21/2010 9:52 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 8:55 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
In that regard, the modification of the Reply-To is, I think, more
likely to give a false sense of security than to fix the problem of
people not getting responses they would benefit from.
I totally disagr
Hi everyone,
the most recent Steering Committee meeting minutes are available:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2010-10-20
Agenda 2010-10-20:
* Update on: get discussion about community structure started (how
to define members?)
* Web
On 2010-10-21 4:38 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
> Youre right *but* AFAIK the digest mails are a container of the mails
> sent during the day. And *those* single mails hold the footer of the
> original one posted.
Ahh... right. forgot about that... interesting problem...
Probably should add th
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
>On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
>> This line has been modified because there is a different way to
>> unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining
>> about digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all.
> ?? That makes no sense
Hi Michel,
2010/10/21 Michel Gagnon
> Le 2010-10-21 03:25, David Nelson a écrit :
>
> Hi, :-)
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 16:50, David Nelson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're a power user, one might prefer to have a purely
>>> icon/tooltip-based interface?
>>>
>> Actually, one program UI that I p
Ciao Gianluca,
Le Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:37:14 +0200,
Gianluca Turconi a écrit :
> Il 20/10/2010 17.37, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
> > yes. So now, do you like what you see?:-)
>
> Well, generally speaking, yes.
>
> I'm just a bit worried about the point of view about membership
> expressed b
The latest Java update for Macs breaks Java (1.6.0_22) use in LibreOffice and
OOo.
There is a OOo bug report (it is a showstopper for OOo 3.3) :
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115180
Also has been discussed on:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3
There's an interesting article about OpenOffice 3.3 beta in Computer Weekly
(the world's first weekly computer magazine) this week. It's at
http://www.computerweekly.com/galleries/243287-1/First-look-at-OpenOffice-beta.htm.
It's 10 short comments each accompanied by a photo. The 5th "slide" has
Hi, :-)
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 21:58, Michel Gagnon wrote:
> Very nice indeed. However, I still haven't found a way to do anything
> significant with it whereas I have no such problems with Draw or Visio.
> But it brings the other question: Inkscape is also another vector-based
> program that wo
On 2010-10-21 1:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.08:
>> Well, as a blanket statement that isn't true of mailman...
>>
>> One example:
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-us...@python.org/msg37624.html
>>
>> MM3 is going to be mucho better in this regar
On 2010-10-20 9:20 PM, MiguelAngel wrote:
> On 21/10/10 2:40, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
>> I am appalled at the level of hostility and contempt being
>> expressed by a few people regarding the support of ordinary users
>> -- our customers.
>>
>> Why are we expending so much time and energy to produ
El 20/10/10 19:40, Jean Hollis Weber escribió:
If you don't want to expend the time and energy to support people at
their own level, that's okay. Just don't get directly involved with
users; do something else.
--Jean
In Mexico, three companies are working on updating our solutions to
Libre
On 2010-10-20 8:55 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> In that regard, the modification of the Reply-To is, I think, more
> likely to give a false sense of security than to fix the problem of
> people not getting responses they would benefit from.
I totally disagree.
The only time this wouldn't work is i
On 2010-10-21 1:23 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Can the Reply-to header not be fixed (by the list manager software or by
>> an associated script) to include the OP if that OP is not subscribed?
>
> if someone submits a patch for mlmmj, our mailing lists software, then
> yes. Otherwise no.
Ok
On 2010-10-21 1:22 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
>> Bummer... my point is that non-subbed posters should simply be sent a
>> REJECT message with instructions on how to subscribe - or better, a nice
>> instructive web page with detailed instructions on th
On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Florian is already working on a solution using a webform or something
> like that, so please keep your mood and wait a bit longer.
>
> I know that it is unsatisfactory to see problems addressed earlier to
> reappear - but even if the day would have
On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> This line has been modified because there is a different way to
> unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining about
> digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all.
?? That makes no sense. Each list has it's *own* footer, right (if no
Le 2010-10-21 03:25, David Nelson a écrit :
Hi, :-)
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 16:50, David Nelson wrote:
If you're a power user, one might prefer to have a purely
icon/tooltip-based interface?
Actually, one program UI that I personally find nicely laid out is
Inkscape... Obviously, this would
Le 2010-10-21 01:26, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.18:
(including lists) for the long run...
Anyway, at a minimum, I would dearly love to see simple list specific
pages for subscribing/unsubscribing. Mailman generates these out of the
box, so its not
Il 20/10/2010 17.37, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
yes. So now, do you like what you see?:-)
Well, generally speaking, yes.
I'm just a bit worried about the point of view about membership
expressed by Drew Jensen.
Developers are surely a part of the Community core, but just a part.
I've re
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Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
Bummer... my point is that non-subbed
"Sebastian Spaeth" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:40:31 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
I am appalled at the level of hostility and contempt being expressed by
a few people regarding the support of ordinary users -- our customers.
While I agree th
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:40:31 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> I am appalled at the level of hostility and contempt being expressed by
> a few people regarding the support of ordinary users -- our customers.
While I agree that organizing good user support is important, I feel
that most of the dis
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:17:47 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> If there is so much time wasted dealing with non-subscribers, then we
> need to re-evaluate our lists and take a close look at what we are doing
> wrong. Our LibO suite is so popular that so many new users call on us
> for help. Then we sho
"Florian Effenberger" wrote in message
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Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
Bummer... my point is that non-subbed posters should simply be sent a
REJECT message with instructions on how to subscribe - or better, a nice
instructive web
"Florian Effenberger" wrote in message
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Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09:
The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL
FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address
that Gmane is
Hi, :-)
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 16:50, David Nelson wrote:
> If you're a power user, one might prefer to have a purely
> icon/tooltip-based interface?
Actually, one program UI that I personally find nicely laid out is
Inkscape... Obviously, this would be more of a power user's layout,
and you co
on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Drew Jensen
meant to write:
- sorry, the pronoun 'you' - I was _not_ talking about you the individual
there.
>
> Ahh, yes of course Sorry! Silly me !
>
Best wishes,
Drew
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:36:10 +0200, Mike Dupont wrote:
> I think the measurement is :
>
> 1. what will it cost if you have to rewrite the authors code and all
> derived works.
> 2. what if you just remove the code
That doesn't work for contributions other than code, e.g.:
- artists
- Usability
On 2010/10/20 11:33 PM Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09:
The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL
FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address
that Gmane is subscribed to".
I still don't get it
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