Re: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?

2010-11-20 Thread Claus Agerskov
Sean White skrev: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project I will suggest

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?

2010-11-20 Thread Ron Faile
On 11/20/2010 2:30 AM, Ron Faile wrote: >NoOP is right, I wrote the quoted text. Your explanation is well >noted and I can see the reasoning behind it. The sooner we can change >the interface and feel of LibreOffice then the better, as I for one >don't want such a Oracle aligning feature as versi

[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread James Wilde
On Nov 19, 2010, at 23:06 , Florian Effenberger [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > > hm, that's strange. Maybe issues with your mail provider? Well, if it is, then it's affecting gmail also! So far no response emails have come to my gmail account, and it's now about ten hours

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?

2010-11-20 Thread Sean White
The UI improvements look good and might just make it easier for people who liked the MSOffice Ribbon and/or dislike the current UI. I think the design could go along way On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ron Faile wrote: > On 11/20/2010 2:30 AM, Ron Faile wrote: > >> >NoOP is right, I wrote the

[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Why LO mobile version should not be ignored

2010-11-20 Thread Harold Fuchs
"Phil Hibbs" wrote in message news:aanlktin5x5+tsqrnj=be061onrnu1fas2xq1xek+d...@mail.gmail.com... Ian Lynch: And of course there is the argument that without certain features some of the large public sector switches might not have happened. Back in my teens, my dad and I wrote a Basic inte

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice should have own "LibreOfficeFont"

2010-11-20 Thread Harold Fuchs
"Mateusz Zasuwik" wrote in message news:aanlktin4f7ls=f5cf+mt3ul2koaxtnxb2ko4exf=0...@mail.gmail.com... Hello Early this year FlashCounter published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany. http:/

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?

2010-11-20 Thread Ron Faile
I just uploaded a file (item 11) on the UI improvements page, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Default_UI_Improvements with some ideas that include a new menu structure. Would be interested in your comments. Ron -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundati

RE: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?

2010-11-20 Thread Florian Reisinger
Sean White skrev:> As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project> derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version> numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in> peoples minds that we are a separate projectI will sugg

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice should have own "LibreOfficeFont"

2010-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Harold Fuchs wrote: > "Mateusz Zasuwik" wrote ... > > http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html > > http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) > > > > The study relies on extricating fonts installed on t

[tdf-discuss] [UI] Citrus: contextual toolbars

2010-11-20 Thread Mirek M.
Contextual toolbars in Citrus: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/citrus-fizz/ -- Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? A: http://five.sentenc.es -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guideli

[tdf-discuss] [UI] Possible roadmap

2010-11-20 Thread Mirek M.
A UI change doesn't have to be a drastic change. Actually, ideally, the change should be as smooth as possible. So here's an imagined roadmap (not a real LibO roadmap, keep that in mind), to imagine how TDF could get to the Citrus UI gradually: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/citrus-get

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-19 23.13: In the meantime I've registered myself withwilde.ja...@gmail.com in all three, and maybe you can fix me as moderator with that email address, too. on which lists? Can do so if you tell me which lists you moderate. Florian -- Florian Effenberger S

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-20 09.40: So far no response emails have come to my gmail account, and it's now about ten hours since I sent the subscribe emails. And no list messages have arrived either. Since 23:02 last night the only messages which have reached me - to this email addre

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Citrus: contextual toolbars

2010-11-20 Thread David Nelson
Hi Mirek, :-) On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:24, Mirek M. wrote: > Contextual toolbars in Citrus: > http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/citrus-fizz/ Nice feature (provided that one can also disable it if desired). David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoun

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Possible roadmap

2010-11-20 Thread David Nelson
Hi Mirek, :-) I enjoyed your blog post. Especially this: "Contextual toolbars no longer hide the selection: Make the contextual toolbars that appear when you’re working with an object (tables, pictures, lists, …) appear above the object (so that it doesn’t cover up the object)." It's a small beh

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Citrus: contextual toolbars

2010-11-20 Thread Mike Houben
I find this citrus realy good. But in my thoughts it's a little bit to much Linux direction. We don't have to forget the other Systems (Windows, Mac OS). M 2010/11/20 David Nelson > Hi Mirek, :-) > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:24, Mirek M. wrote: > > Contextual toolbars in Citrus: > > http://

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Possible roadmap

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mirek M. wrote: > > So here's an imagined roadmap (not a real LibO roadmap, keep that in mind), > to imagine how TDF could get to the Citrus UI gradually: > http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/citrus-getting-there/ > Mirek, I love the concept of the Citrus

[tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Craig A. Eddy
Recently (like 4:00 AM local time, November 20, 2010) I downloaded the .tar.gz of the .deb files from TDF (http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/). On unpacking the archived files I discovered that LO is subjecting poor unsuspecting users to the same problem th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:51:00 -0600, Craig A. Eddy wrote: Recently (like 4:00 AM local time, November 20, 2010) I downloaded the .tar.gz of the .deb files from TDF (http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/). On unpacking the archived files I discovered that LO

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: > there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for > each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates the order with which to > install them. When dealing with 52 .deb files it's like trying to do a > jigsaw puzzle where all

[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread James Wilde
On Nov 20, 2010, at 13:44 , Florian Effenberger [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > Hi, > > James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-19 23.13: > > In the meantime I've registered myself [hidden email] in all three, and > > maybe you can fix me as moderator with that email address, too. >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Craig A. Eddy
On 11/20/2010 07:59 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > Hi, > > Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: > >> there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for >> each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates the order with which to >> install them. When dealing with 52 .deb

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Craig A. Eddy
On 11/20/2010 08:04 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > > > On 11/20/2010 07:59 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: >> >>> there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for >>> each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates the order

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Citrus: contextual toolbars

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
> > But in my thoughts it's a little bit to much Linux direction. We don't have > to forget the other Systems (Windows, Mac OS). > > Mike Houben > I totally disagree. The clean styling brings focus to the document rather than the OS or program interface. The dark theme simply draws the focus to t

[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice news published in argentinian newspaper La Nacion

2010-11-20 Thread Martín Olivera
La Nacion - a very important newspaper in Argentina - published this note about LibreOffice in their technology section original in spanish http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1321337 in English via Google translate http://translate.google.es/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread Florian Effenberger
Which address did you use for subscribing? James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-20 16.01: disc...@df documentat...@libo us...@libo webs...@libo But it's no use yet. My application to join the lists from gmail has still not been replied to. Do you think the df/libo mail server has blacklisted me?:(

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Citrus: contextual toolbars

2010-11-20 Thread Carlos Martinez
Hi, I like the design, but I'd like to see this tool bar anchored(or with the possibility to be anchored) immediately down the main tool bar. Very nice work ! Carlos Martinez Mike Houben skrev 2010-11-20 15:16: I find this citrus realy good. But in my thoughts it's a little bit to much Linux

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
>> I can not confirm your problem. >> >> dpgk -i *.deb >> >> does the job for me without trouble. >> >> Stefan >> >> > > Stefan, > > Thanks, I'll try that. However, it would have been nice if that was > listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I > am able to follow dir

[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread James Wilde
On Nov 20, 2010, at 13:45 , Florian Effenberger [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > Hi, > > James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-20 09.40: > > So far no response emails have come to my gmail account, and it's now about > > ten hours since I sent the subscribe emails. And no list messag

[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem

2010-11-20 Thread James Wilde
wilde.ja...@gmail.com On Nov 20, 2010, at 16:36 , Florian Effenberger [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > Which address did you use for subscribing? > > James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-20 16.01: > > disc...@df > > documentat...@libo > > us...@libo > > webs...@libo > > > > But i

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice news published in argentinian newspaper La Nacion

2010-11-20 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-20 10:28, Martín Olivera a écrit : La Nacion - a very important newspaper in Argentina - published this note about LibreOffice in their technology section original in spanish http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1321337 in English via Google translate http://translate.google.e

Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion

2010-11-20 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > On 11/19/2010 7:16 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> Hi Charles, * >> >> Charles Marcus schrieb: >>> I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to >>> questions in the nature of "I know how to do this in >>> Excel/Word/Powerpoin

Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion

2010-11-20 Thread Lyle Cochran
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > > On 11/19/2010 7:16 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > >> Hi Charles, * > >> > >> Charles Marcus schrieb: > >>> I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to > >>> questi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Craig, *, Craig A. Eddy schrieb: >On 11/20/2010 07:59 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: >> Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: >>> there is no obvious way to start to install the files. >>> Dependencies for each .deb have to be met, but nothing indicates >>> the order with which to install th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-20 Thread Craig A. Eddy
On 11/20/2010 03:24 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: > Hi Craig, *, > > Craig A. Eddy schrieb: > >> On 11/20/2010 07:59 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: >>> Am 20.11.2010 15:51, schrieb Craig A. Eddy: > there is no obvious way to start to install the files. Dependencies for each .deb have to

[tdf-discuss] changed footers of all documentfoundation and libreoffice.org mailing lists

2010-11-20 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all, I changed the footers of all documentfoundation.org and libreoffice.org mailinglists according to this one. For I did so by script, please report if you notice funny things ;o)). I skipped the "posting guidelines" line because it links to an external target. Within a few days I will put

Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion

2010-11-20 Thread drew
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 16:55 -0500, Lyle Cochran wrote: > >From a promotional perspective, I'd use terminology like "Migrating > from > > Microsoft Office". This provides implicit reinforcement that > migrating to > > LibO from MSO is such a common occurrence that we need a special > section in > >