Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread sb73542
Hi everyone, I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few things straight. 1. The forum DOES have full categories, similar to the two major OpenOffice.org forums. Please look at /forum or click on the Forums button toward the upper left. I prefer the "Recent posts" listing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Ben McGinnes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 25/04/11 8:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > There is also http://odt2daisy.sourceforge.net/ - in case your reader > supports the daisy format. I hadn't even heard of DAISY, but it looks very cool so thanks for pointing me at it. I just inst

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2011 08:44, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > It is OK if it has a paypal or whatever donate link to explicitly cover the costs of running the server (but it must be clear that this You do realize that the organization that puts up the "donation l

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2011 03:29, Larry Gusaas wrote: > Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to the > spirit of using open source software. Open Source Software is about LIBRE. Gratis is completely and utterly irrelevant to FLOSS.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/25 2:58 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-04-25 4:36 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote: Being contrary to the spirit of making money is being contrary to the spirit of life itself Bullshit. Making money has nothing to do with the spirit of life. N

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-04-25 4:36 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote: >> Being contrary to the spirit of making money is being contrary to the >> spirit of life itself > Bullshit. Making money has nothing to do with the spirit of life. No bullshit... it has everything to do wi

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-04-24 11:29 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to the spirit of using open source software. Not that I'm arguing for or against the particular forum in question, but... since when is ma

[steering-discuss] Invitiation to participate in our study regarding community governance

2011-04-25 Thread Martin Heitmann
Dear Sir or Madam I kindly want to invite you to our project's upcoming study on community governance and its impact on the collaboration with other organizations. Given the recent developments between the OpenOffice.org (respectively LibreOffice) community on the one hand and Oracle/Sun on th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-04-24 11:29 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to > the spirit of using open source software. Not that I'm arguing for or against the particular forum in question, but... since when is making 'money contrary to the spirit of using o

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread sb73542
Hi everyone, I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few things straight. 1. The forum DOES have full categories, similar to the two major OpenOffice.org forums. Please look at /forum or click on the Forums button toward the upper left. I prefer the "Recent posts" listing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread CaStarCo
scripting, not for media content). I suppose there are good reasons to > choose that spec and not an extended one... but at that moment, I can > imagine which reasons are. > > > Sorry, i wanted to say "but at the moment, I CAN'T imagine wich reasons are. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to dis

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread CaStarCo
There is a draft of the EPUB3 specification ( http://idpf.org/news/epub-3-specification-public-draft-released ), I think that this spec has many problems: the capability of scripting (wich is potentially harmful), the low emphasis on semantic data (they use metadata, but specially related to the bo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 04/25/2011 11:11 AM, drew wrote: However, should LibreOffice have support for producing documents targeted to eReaders? I don't know maybe, probably. I am not an expert on ebooks formats, but I know there are a lot of efforts around the ePub format to become a standard. Unfortunately, the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Jon Hamkins
On 04/25/2011 05:07 AM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 12:27 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: It is the impression that the user will get. Clicking a donate button is a voluntary choice by the user clicking that button. Being presented/forced to view an advertisement is not an optional thin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 12:27 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Drew, *, > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:05 AM, drew wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza > >> wrote: > > [...] > > In general I would like t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Ben, *, On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote: > On 25/04/11 7:11 PM, drew wrote: >> >> As far as LibreOffice being a display client for ebooks, I would >> agree it is not in scope. >> >> However, should LibreOffice have support for producing documents >> targeted to eReaders? I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Drew, *, On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:05 AM, drew wrote: > On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza >> wrote: > [...] > In general I would like to see the ads limited and focused, but out > right banned in favor of a donat

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Ian Lynch
On 25 April 2011 10:40, drew wrote: > On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 11:17 +0200, CaStarCo wrote: > > 2011/4/25 Italo Vignoli > > > > > On 04/25/2011 08:59 AM, todd rme wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like latex > > >> > > > > > > Apart from discussions on the characteristics of the file format, > ebooks > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-25 Thread Ian Lynch
On 24 April 2011 21:36, Robert Derman wrote: > Jon Hamkins wrote: > >> On 04/22/2011 05:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> >>> Hi *, >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Jon Hamkins >>> wrote: >>> On 04/06/2011 04:54 AM, toki wrote: There are roughly one billion words in the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Ben McGinnes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 25/04/11 7:11 PM, drew wrote: > > As far as LibreOffice being a display client for ebooks, I would > agree it is not in scope. > > However, should LibreOffice have support for producing documents > targeted to eReaders? I don't know maybe, proba

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 11:17 +0200, CaStarCo wrote: > 2011/4/25 Italo Vignoli > > > On 04/25/2011 08:59 AM, todd rme wrote: > > > > Sounds like latex > >> > > > > Apart from discussions on the characteristics of the file format, ebooks > > are definitely outside the scope of The Document Foundati

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread CaStarCo
2011/4/25 Italo Vignoli > On 04/25/2011 08:59 AM, todd rme wrote: > > Sounds like latex >> > > Apart from discussions on the characteristics of the file format, ebooks > are definitely outside the scope of The Document Foundation. There are > already several organizations working around ebooks,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 09:39 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 04/25/2011 08:59 AM, todd rme wrote: > > > Sounds like latex > > Apart from discussions on the characteristics of the file format, ebooks > are definitely outside the scope of The Document Foundation. Hello Italo, As far as LibreOff

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Augistine, *, > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza > wrote: > > I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover > > costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread CaStarCo
2011/4/25 todd rme > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM, CaStarCo wrote: > What you are proposing basically sounds like latex. But you need to > be careful to separate out the format from the software that reads the > format. Stuff like sorting tables, choosing layouts, choosing colors, > inserti

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Augistine, *, On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza wrote: > I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover > costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need > to take specific steps to block ads from that site). But the point was

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 04/25/2011 08:59 AM, todd rme wrote: Sounds like latex Apart from discussions on the characteristics of the file format, ebooks are definitely outside the scope of The Document Foundation. There are already several organizations working around ebooks, and taking care of the related probl

Re: [tdf-discuss] Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-25 Thread todd rme
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM, CaStarCo wrote: What you are proposing basically sounds like latex. But you need to be careful to separate out the format from the software that reads the format. Stuff like sorting tables, choosing layouts, choosing colors, inserting other text, linking to other