[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-14 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-14, 4:48 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 18:51, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Dear Mr. Gussas, That is not a fix but a workaround. Fix it. No doubt if I had the skills to do so, I might, but I'm afraid my poor brain can only cope with installing a JDK and occasio

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-12, 9:28 AM Tanstaafl wrote: And every time a new bug crops up in OSX, it is on every other software developer to work around their bugs? You just don't get it. It's not a new bug. LibreOffice's database was working fine on Macs until the update to LibreOffice 5.1 made it unusable.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
ly what you want. 13 years in the open source worldI am yet to see such a project. Warmest Regards, Joel On 03/11/2016 05:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > In other word you don't give a fuck about Mac users. > > I am now going to recommend, on a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
THEIR bug or are you sticking solely to this list? Best, Joel On 03/11/2016 04:29 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2016-03-11, 5:55 PM Joel Madero wrote: In shortno. Gee. Very in-depth answer. Or do you, like some others here, not care about Mac users perceptions of LibreOffice? Since I am

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 5:55 PM Joel Madero wrote: In shortno. Gee. Very in-depth answer. Or do you, like some others here, not care about Mac users perceptions of LibreOffice? Since I am not on the developer list (and it is not available through Gmane, which is the only way I follow these and ot

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 5:32 PM Joel Madero wrote: Please take this off discuss@ list, it belongs at best on dev list, QA list, or user listdiscuss list isn't the appropriate place. Why??? I am not a developer and don't follow that list. I am not asking for help. I am reporting a problem with the us

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice on Macs with your code change. *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. It'

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 2:39 PM Tanstaafl wrote: So, you are complaining about a Mac bug here... please take it to the appropriate place (wherever you report Mac bugs)... No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice on Macs with your code change. It worked before. Any new user

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
st. Note the comment /*"I'm not sure we did ourselves a favour with that change..."*/. On 02/11/2016 04:16 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 10/02/2016 23:46, Larry Gusaas a écrit : As I said in my original post, i reinstalled LibreOffice 5.0.4. Java is

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 12:47 PM Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/11/2016 12:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.1

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. Cf. bu

[tdf-discuss] Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist

[tdf-discuss] Installing on Mac OS X

2016-03-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
This has still not been fixed. Once again I can't open LibreOffice after upgrading to LibreOffice_5.1.1_MacOS_x86-64 and LibreOffice_5.1.1_MacOS_x86-64_langpack_en-GB on my Mac (OS X ver. 10.11.3 El Capitan) Get the following message: “LibreOffice.app” is damaged and can’t be opened. You sh

[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing on Mac OS X

2015-12-18 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2015-12-18, 4:52 PM James E Lang wrote: As for Larry's protestation that the download did not go wrong, I don't know how anybody can be absolutely certain of that. Error checking is very sophisticated now but there is also a very slim chance that offsetting corruptions could occur. I would a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing on Mac OS X

2015-12-18 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2015-12-18, 7:56 AM Uwe Altmann wrote: Hi Larry Am 18.12.15 um 10:34 schrieb Larry Gusaas: No, the download did not go wrong. I also installed the en-GB language pack. Doing so makes the signing certificate invalid and it can't be opened unless I switch security settings to &quo

[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing on Mac OS X

2015-12-18 Thread Larry Gusaas
uld you think I would even consider using MS Office??? BTW: Apache OpenOffice has no problem opening after installation. Pages also works well. I have not need for MS Office. Am 18.12.15 um 01:12 schrieb Larry Gusaas: Once again I can't open LibreOffice after upgrading to LibreOffice_5.0.4_MacO

[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing on Mac OS X

2015-12-17 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2015-12-17, 6:53 PM Jingtao Yan wrote: On Mac OS X, when you install LibreOffice, you should install LibreOffice first, and run LibreOffice once, after run once, install langpack. That is ridiculous. Stupid design. Do proper security certificates. 在 2015/12/18 8:12, Larry Gusaas 写道: Once

[tdf-discuss] Installing on Mac OS X

2015-12-17 Thread Larry Gusaas
Once again I can't open LibreOffice after upgrading to LibreOffice_5.0.4_MacOS_x86-64 and LibreOffice_5.0.4_MacOS_x86-64_langpack_en-GB on my Mac (OS X ver. 10.11.2 El Capitan) Get the following message: “LibreOffice.app” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash. I ha

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice and Java Security:

2013-01-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2013-01-12 9:22 PM lj wrote: Hi all, I am not sure if this is the correct list for this message. I recently read this article about a Java 1.7 Security Problem. The article states "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has recommended that users disable the Java 7 browser plug-in entirel

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Forums Proposal

2012-10-06 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2012-10-06 9:43 PM Joel Madero wrote: I read through all the previous threads and I can see combining a few things that were mentioned (such as OS X and Linux) Why would you even think of combining Linux and OS X? They are completely different operating systems. Installation on each is comp

[tdf-discuss] Re: Thunderbird and Gmane

2012-02-17 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2012-02-15 5:03 AM Marc Paré wrote: For those of you using the combination of Thunderbird and Gmane, it looks like the newer version of Thunderbird v.10.0.1 has corrected the Gmane problem with updating read/non-read messages. All seems to be working OK. NB. This is for Thunderbird v.10.0.1,

[tdf-discuss] Re: overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-11-27 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-11-25 3:19 PM Stefan Weigel wrote: Am 25.11.2011 19:43, schrieb Regina Henschel: I use Seamonkey for emails. All mailing lists I'm described to (and believe me that are a lot) behave in the way that a click on "Antwort auf diese Nachricht" replies to the list. So keep the documentfoun

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane reset?

2011-11-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-11-10 7:01 PM Marc Paré wrote: Has this just happened to me or has anyone else had a Gmane re-set where all of the discussions have been reset to unread? I had some discussions tagged for later work and I have also lost the tags (colour coded items). Doh! Marc I had the same problem

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-10-29 1:11 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 29/10/2011 08:23, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Migration has been done : http://ooo-forums.apache.org/ It works for FR forum but I do not know how users will be aware of the new url. Best regards. JBF Simple fix. Setup a redirect from the old

[tdf-discuss] Re: user forums ?

2011-10-29 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-10-28 5:21 PM Stefan Weigel wrote: Am 29.10.2011 00:16, schrieb Cor Nouws: > I noticed that the old users forums from OOo are not available any > more. Hm. Aren´t they still available? http://user.services.openoffice.org/ But, you are right, it´s likely they will disappear or be

[tdf-discuss] Support for Versions, Full-Screen, and Resume in OS X Lion

2011-08-03 Thread Larry Gusaas
When will LibreOffice add support for using the Versions, Full-Screen mode, and Resume features in Mac OS X version 10.7 Lion ? NeoOffice already supports these features in NeoOffice 3.2.1 Beta. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: h

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 3:42 PM Ken Springer wrote: On 8/1/11 2:40 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: I'm confused. You previously stated you could not post through gmane with your Snowshed address. Now you say you haven't. You're not wasting your time, but our wires are definitely getting crosse

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 2:34 PM Ken Springer wrote: It would seem that you have not responded to gmane's confirmation email. I think you are a step ahead of me. I've not yet signed up with GMANE as wordworks. Only as Snowshed. Which makes me wonder what would happen if I put the snowshed address there

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 12:05 PM Ken Springer wrote: My info is exactly the same as your screenshot for my name and email address, but the sending doesn't work. I didn't sign up the wordworks address at GMANE as of yet. Going to wait until I know I've got the snowshed address deleted there. I though

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 10:47 AM Ken Springer wrote: I've not made any changes at GMANE as of yet. And I've not found the website to be that easy to navigate and/or understand unless you are higher up on the technically non-challenged food chain. This seems to be a common problem I find with open sour

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-08-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/08/01 9:44 AM Ken Springer wrote: Have you received an authorization email form gmane to your currentemail address? You have to reply to it before the post is forwarded tothis mailing list. Since you are using a different email address thanyou used to, I sus

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-07-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/07/31 5:28 PM Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 2:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:Please fix your quote attribution. It is almost impossible to pick out your comments in this mess. I would if I knew how And *if* it was easy to do for just the LO messages. I'm not

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-07-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/07/31 2:08 PM Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Larry,On 7/31/11 1:20 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 1:02 PM Ken Springer wrote:Hi, Larry,On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote:On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer wrote:is there a way to determine the email

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-07-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/07/31 1:02 PM Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Larry, On Sun Jul 31 12:39:57 2011, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer wrote: is there a way to determine the email address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's different than this one.I didn't easily f

[tdf-discuss] Re: Gmane sending issues

2011-07-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/07/31 12:18 PM Ken Springer wrote: is there a way to determine the email address on file for my GMANE account? I'd bet it's different than this one.I didn't easily find a way to do that on the web page(s).Ken In Thunderbird, go to "Tools/Account Settings". Select your Gmane account. Th

[tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request: Mac Osx Lion

2011-07-17 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/07/17 10:06 AM Robert Derman wrote: Laurence Jeloudev wrote: Hi, I was wondering if Libreoffice would implement an auto save feature in os x lion and full screen app support, or maybe an auto save feature that is similar but it can also be Implemented in other operating systems like u

[tdf-discuss] test

2011-06-11 Thread Larry Gusaas
Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org P

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-26 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/25 8:50 AM sb73...@libreofficeforum.org wrote: 2. Ads. Yes, we have them. Including ads for companies selling Microsoft Office. I find that offensive. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artis

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/25 2:58 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-04-25 4:36 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote: Being contrary to the spirit of making money is being contrary to the spirit of life itself Bullshit. Making money has nothing to do with the spirit of life

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-04-24 11:29 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to the spirit of using open source software. Not that I'm arguing for or against the particular forum in question, but... since wh

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 8:34 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote: This comes as a surprise to me. I do not see any ads before or after I login. Andy You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions for your browser. That do

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 1:05 PM Andy Brown wrote: adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by "Uncategorized"? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to hear. If you look a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for "libreoffice forum" and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning t

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2011-04-24 11:21:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Another thing: once I'm on a web forum, if I have time I start poking through the categories to pick out topics of interest and i learn so much about the forum. And another thing: effectively

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for "libreoffice forum" and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus, even though I started from the "en." subdomain and selected Engli

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-18 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/17 8:29 PM Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello aqualung, Am 2011-04-17 11:26:23, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: The http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ should be at or near the top. WHY? I think the first one should be the ORIGINAL mailinglist, because it is more ipmortant.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing "LibreOffice"

2011-04-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/02 12:54 AM Len Copley wrote: My English dictionary tells me at the beginning , that Canada is unique, in as much as Canadians will spell correct English or use American English. Huh? More of this "correct English" bullshit. Correct English in Great Britain is different than correc

[tdf-discuss] Re: Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing "LibreOffice"

2011-04-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
s of English, they change radically over time and are different in every English speaking country. On 2/04/2011 7:57 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/01 1:20 PM Len Copley wrote: I agree, as English spoken by Americans is different to correct English Please, pray tell me, what is bloo

[tdf-discuss] Re: Get and appove: recommended Soundfile pronouncing "LibreOffice"

2011-04-01 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/01 1:20 PM Len Copley wrote: I agree, as English spoken by Americans is different to correct English Please, pray tell me, what is bloody correct English? Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Downloading Install file from home page fails

2011-02-18 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/02/18 9:11 AM John wrote: Maybe there is some other discussion forum where I could have asked? The help list is us...@libreoffice.org To subscribe send an e-mail to users+subscr...@libreoffice.org Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Ca

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice exits after closing the Credits page

2011-01-25 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/25 5:36 PM Lyle Cochran wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Marius Popawrote: and secondly since the Credits page do not even exists in OpenOffice.org. Thanks in advance. First LibreOffice is not OpenOffice.org. Secondly The Document Foundation is a meritocracy and believes t

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store - or else ?

2011-01-13 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/13 3:53 PM Fabián Rodríguez wrote: There is no DRM used on the Mac OS X App Store. There is DRM on the Apple iOS AppStore. They are two separate entities. The FSF objections are to the DRM on the iOS AppStore and do not apply to the OS X App Store. Of course, the FSF objects to Apple

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/12 11:25 AM Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:05:16 -0600, Larry Gusaas a écrit : > And please tell me, what was uncivil about my post? The tone of your post Larry. Please re-read it. There is nothing uncivil in that post. La

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/12 11:00 AM Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Please let me reiterate, Larry, that the tone of our discussion on the mailing lists should be civil. Therefore, understand that not everyone shares your passion or interest for the Mac platform. And please tell me, what was uncivil about my pos

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/12 8:49 AM Mirek M. wrote: 2011/1/12 Jonathan Aquilina > Why not license it under an appropriate license that would allow us to put > it in the app store? would that mean we would need to remove the GPL or can > it be dual licensed to go on the app store? I'm no expert, but as

[tdf-discuss] Re: RE : Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-07 Thread Larry Gusaas
Larry, Let me remind you that we expect courtesy on our lists. Thank you, Charles. Le 7 janv. 2011, 6:55 PM, "Larry Gusaas" a écrit : On 2011/01/07 9:38 AM Fabián Rodríguez wrote:> > You're right, at least for now. Apple controls i... Your unsubstantiated idle speculation is

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-07 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/07 9:38 AM Fabián Rodríguez wrote: You're right, at least for now. Apple controls its OS and its updates, which effectively can control which apps go on your computer (or not). IMO, it's only a matter of time before such restrictions happen, just like iPhone and iPad (which*for now*

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-06 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/07 12:57 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Someone also mentioned there are issues with GPL licensing that Apple doesn't seem to like :-/ And the license has nothing to do with an application installing on a Mac computer. I have several GPL and LGPL licensed applications installed. Lar

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-06 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/06 11:05 PM todd rme wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Apple does not control what software I install on my computer. Quit spreading such BS. They do if you are using an iPad (unless you have hacked it). As I said, Apple does not control what software

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store

2011-01-06 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/06 9:57 PM todd rme wrote: I do find it bizarre that people are so up in arms about OOXML but seem to have no complaints with Apple's blatant attempts to have total control over the software you are allowed to install on your own computer. Apple does not control what software I ins

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 4:15 PM Italo Vignoli wrote: Emails where people say that LibreOffice should not support a document format because it is backed by Microsoft or because is a Go-OO heritage are not a positive contribution. So pointing out the Novell/Microsoft marketing agreement that led to the

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 9:42 PM Lee Hyde wrote: On 03/01/11 03:17, Larry Gusaas wrote: That is pure condescension. He is saying that because I do not write code my opinion is worthless and nobody will listen to me. That is hardly condescension, merely a statement of fact. Yes it is a statement of

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 8:51 PM Lee Hyde wrote: I haven't read anything from Italo that could be construed as condescension. Italo wrote: "If you want to have a say in software development you are welcome to contribute to the code and you will soon be able to talk to the ESC, or maybe become a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 7:35 PM Bernhard Dippold wrote: You can take your elitist developer attitude and stuff it. Pleas stop such comments, they don't lead to any positive result. And the condescending comment that led to my response sure wasn't very positive. I have no patience with people who sa

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 12:49 PM Charles Marcus wrote: No, the discussion is long over because the decision was made long ago. Where? When? Who made it? By Go-OO and Novell? Obviously, some people think it should, others think it shouldn't, and there is nothing wrong with that. Thankfully, just becau

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 12:47 PM Italo Vignoli wrote: If you want to have a say in software development you are welcome to contribute to the code So only people who write code have a say in the development of LibreOffice? What about people who do the QA? Or the people providing support? (I mainly prov

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 12:29 PM Robert Parker wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: It is a community decision, not a developer decision. The developers, that is the people doing the work, will decide what LO does and does not do. I'm sure those good hard working folk will

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 11:55 AM Robert Parker wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/01/02 11:24 AM Italo Vignoli wrote: On 1/2/11 6:20 PM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: Nope, writing back as doc is good enough at this point. Definitely not. LibreOffice writes OOXML and

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/01/02 11:24 AM Italo Vignoli wrote: On 1/2/11 6:20 PM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: Nope, writing back as doc is good enough at this point. Definitely not. LibreOffice writes OOXML and will write OOXML, and this is not under discussion. Our developers have the right skills to decide abou

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/31 12:15 PM Carl Symons wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Gress wrote: I checked my OOo, dev m95 (3.4), it doesn't support save as "docx" and 3.3 rc8 (3.3 m18) also doesn't support "docx" in save as. What version are you using that supports docx? > From standard Kubun

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/31 7:23 AM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are usi

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/31 1:02 AM Sean White wrote: IF LibreOffice pulls .docx support then people WONT congratulate us on the strength of our morals. Nobody suggest not being able to read .docx files, only that LibO should no be able to write to that format. They will instead see an 'office suite' t

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/30 7:09 PM Carl Symons wrote: One minor point here...OOo also supports writing to docx format. Official OpenOffice.org builds do not support writing to the .docx format. The Go-OO derivative does write to the .docx format (probably because of the agreement between Microsoft and N

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/30 2:14 PM Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/2010 12:27 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: I will not support or use LibreOffice until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file format. There is absolutely no need to write in

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/12/30 2:19 PM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do about it I'm afraid Yes you can do something about it. Don't enable writing in that format. Use PDF's for communicating. If a MS use

[tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-30 Thread Larry Gusaas
I will not support or use LibreOffice until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file format. There is absolutely no need to write in this proprietary format. To do so is contrary to the principle of using ODF and open source formats. See the following: http://user.servic

[tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 8:23 PM Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-23 19:55, Larry Gusaas a écrit : On 2010/11/23 5:01 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote: It would be interesting to know, just from a statistical point of view, which countries in the world use Letter instead of A4 as their default page size for

[tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 8:31 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Gusaaswrote: On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote: This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with [tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others insert t

[tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 5:01 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote: It would be interesting to know, just from a statistical point of view, which countries in the world use Letter instead of A4 as their default page size for office documents. Apart from the US, I can't think of many others, but perhaps I am just i

[tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 4:46 PM Michael Wheatland wrote: Now we just need to convince people to upgrade their OS and shipping the CDs is taken care of;) Only for Linux users. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas *Moose Jaw, Saskatch

[tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote: This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with [tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others insert the Re: before the [tdf-discuss] token, leading to four kinds of subjects like: Once again I am glad

[tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 12:29 PM Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Larry, *, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/11/23 11:58 AM Christian Lohmaier wrote: 2. I didn't change the subject, Friedrich Strohmaier changed it. Oh yes, it was changed (but according to usual etiq

[tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 11:58 AM Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Larry, *, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: [...] Gmail very capable for mailing lists. Except for the very one drawback you just demonstrated: When changing the subject, gmail will break the thread (start a new one) as

[tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist

2010-11-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/23 11:29 AM Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Michael Wheatland schrieb: >I use Gmail and I reply by >clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation >list. I don't know Gmail, but what You tell from it's not a very mailing list capable mail client. Gmail very capable

[tdf-discuss] Re: Updates overwriting User settings

2010-11-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/11/12 6:14 AM Charles Marcus wrote: Is this only a problem on Linux or Macs? I've never had my settings overwritten, and we've been using OOo in our office since about version 1.0... OOo has never overwrittin the user settings on my Mac in the three and a half years I've been using a

[tdf-discuss] Mac Java update breaks LibreOffice

2010-10-21 Thread Larry Gusaas
The latest Java update for Macs breaks Java (1.6.0_22) use in LibreOffice and OOo. There is a OOo bug report (it is a showstopper for OOo 3.3) : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115180 Also has been discussed on: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-21 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/20 11:33 PM Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09: The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address that Gmane is subscribed to". I still

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-20 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/20 12:56 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-20 2:41 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Or allow posts to this list from people who have subscribe through Gmane to be posted to the list without having to double subscribe. My understanding is that in order for posts from gmane to be allowed

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-20 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/20 11:40 AM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the message will be sent but will not get posted to the list. No

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-20 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/20 3:03 AM Harold Fuchs wrote: The following is verbatim from the Gmane page on Posting (go to www.gmane.com and click the link "Posting" on the left hand side): begin quote === Read-only groups Some groups are read-only. These are typically groups for announcements, publicati

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 4:27 PM Jon Hamkins wrote: On 10/19/2010 10:55 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Wrong. The purpose of gmane is to receive and write messages with a newsreader rather than an email client. Oh, please. 1. This purpose is *also* not defeated by having to be subscribed to the mailing list

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 2:51 PM Charles Marcus wrote: So... according to this, Harold and/or anyone else using gmane should already be able to post? Has anyone tested it? Only if you are subscribed to the mailing list as well. Gmane says posting is allowed but they only go through if you are also subs

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 2:33 PM Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-19 2:43 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that their verified accounts can send to us without subscription, I honestly don't care a lot. I seem to recall once when I was exp

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 12:43 PM Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 19.55: Totally irrelevant statement. Learn how gmane works. Using gname has nothing to do with spam. if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that their verified accounts can

Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 10:06 AM Jon Hamkins wrote: On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface. I agree, having to sign up in two places is inconvenient, and i

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/19 7:00 AM James Wilde wrote: At the moment I'm using Mac Mail, which pulls the sender's name if I press Reply, and everybody's name if I press Reply All. As far as I remember Outlook has the same characteristics. I can't remember what T-Bird did on Linux and I haven't used pi

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/10 5:23 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas schrieb: What would you be giving away? Maintenance and control over the content of the archives. Will Gnome store them for tenths of years? at the same place? According to your website you have your archives set up.The

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 3:47 PM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Larry Gusaas schrieb: Then why did you set up Gmane in the first place? Why not do it properly in the first place? Because it's an external resource. Mailing lists are the center of our community's activity, so we can't

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 11:46 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: If we are able to work with normal workload, allowing postings from Gmane would be a topic. As it was possible at OpenOffice.org, I'm quite sure it would be possible for our lists too. But please let's pend this topic for some more weeks - it i

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 10:49 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: In my opinion Gmane posting is an additional nice-to-have feature, that can be improved, when time allows it. ... especially if there is a workaround (subscribe-nomail) ... That is not a workaround. The purpose of Gmane is to treat a email list

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