Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Derman
Michael Wheatland wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Case in point - Michael's work on Drupal would have provided integrated mail list <> forums <> nabble so that any user could use their tool of choice, and all would be interconnected, not isolated, making these

RE: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Michael and Christoph, > Charles, > The work on the Drupal development has halted as per the Steering Committee > statement. > There seems to be a disconnect between what the community/mailing list > groups want and what the Steering Committee is willing to support. > > From my discussions w

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread David Nelson
Hi Narayan, Michael :-) If you read the various SC meeting minutes objectively, there was never any firm commitment to going over to Drupal. It was, in fact, an openness to re-consider the issue at a later date, and to evaluate a working site alongside specific statements and proof of the advantag

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 1/18/11 8:42 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: If you or others wish to see this development continue, I would suggest that you rally one or more of the SC members to overturn the decisions made at the most recent meeting and allow autonomy within the functional teams. I hope you have gone throu

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-18 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 15:42, Michael Wheatland wrote: > Personally I would like to see 'website team lead(s)' elected within > the website team, by the website team Problem: who are the members of the website team then? That's not something one can even actually properly establish at t

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > Case in point - Michael's work on Drupal would have provided integrated > mail list <> forums <> nabble so that any user could use their tool of > choice, and all would be interconnected, not isolated, making these > silly chest-thumping a

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *, I should never write mails before having the second cup of coffee. Charles Marcus schrieb: >On 2011-01-17 7:50 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: [..] >> What the hell does You make thinking that? They are different - yes >> but more useful? It again depends on who does what! >I'm

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-01-17 7:50 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: > Hi RGB ES, *, > > RGB ES schrieb: > >> It is clear you cannot please everyone: the list of problems you see >> on forums is almost the same list of problems I usually see on mailing >> lists... >> Every communication system have the same merits

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-17 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi RGB ES, *, RGB ES schrieb: >It is clear you cannot please everyone: the list of problems you see >on forums is almost the same list of problems I usually see on mailing >lists... >Every communication system have the same merits and defects of the >people using it. Nothing more, nothing less. T

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-16 Thread RGB ES
It is clear you cannot please everyone: the list of problems you see on forums is almost the same list of problems I usually see on mailing lists... Every communication system have the same merits and defects of the people using it. Nothing more, nothing less. The system can only add tools to easy

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-16 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Michael, *, On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: > > Your average end user > will likely never search through mailing list threads, The average end user will not search web-forums either. My personal experience with forums is that they are useless for technical, more co

RE: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Michael, In general, I full hare your views. > Your average end user will likely never search through mailing list threads, > even if they > contain exactly the information they are looking for. Exactly! > A well presented forum running from a dedicated forum system such as > vBulletin o

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:20 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: > We do not want to split > up knowledge and experience to several forums. Hi Stefan, That is IMO a straw man. The same argument was used when the split from oooForum to user services happened and it proved to be wrong then also - at the e

Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Micheal, Am 10.01.2011 10:36, schrieb Michael Wheatland: > What do others think? Is the forum support option important for trust > building and familiarity? What system would we use? IMHO: Do not spend a minute on creating yet another forum, but point to the already existing well-proven forum

[tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
*** I have cross posted this mail to the website mailing list, for discussions about web infrastructre *** The feedback that I have already got from users interested in the discussions around the Drupal project is that forums are a very important mechanism in sourcing and providing help to end use