Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Andy Matthews
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Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Morbus Iff
I completely and totally disagree with the court in this case. At what point does it stop? Does my personal blog need to be accessible to the blind? What if I don't care about them? Why should the courts get involved in this No, your personal blog doesn't need to be accessible because it does

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Stephen Howard
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Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Rey Bango
I think the hardest part for many web developers to grasp, including myself, is how web accessibility is handled in web apps. Just hearing the term web accessibility makes it sound like a massive task when it may be as simple as placing text in ALT or TITLE tags. Since I've never coded for

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Yehuda Katz
-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]OnBehalf Of Morbus Iff Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:28 AMTo: jQuery Discussion.Subject: Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps. I completely and totally disagree with the court in this case. At what point does

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Morbus Iff
I think the hardest part for many web developers to grasp, including myself, is how web accessibility is handled in web apps. Just hearing the term web accessibility makes it sound like a massive task when it may be as simple as placing text in ALT or TITLE tags. Since I've never coded

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Rey Bango
Honestly, if you start with a strong and semantic and validated X?HTML design, adding the accessibility to just that HTML is easy as pie. Adding accessibility to jQuery would be a whole 'nother issue. Thanks for the feedback. For my needs, if you can't bookmark the results of an AJAX

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Mike Alsup
Why should the courts get involved in this matter? Because few would make the effort otherwise. Sad but true. Section 508 was written to call out the fact that software companies CAN NOT ignore our disabled citizens. Even so, most do anyway. Believe me, it's MUCH easier going into a project

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Felix Geisendörfer
I took this from the other thread "Ajax Throbber How-to?" since I believe it fits into this one better: When was the last time you disabled _javascript_? Today, yesterday and most days before that. Not for my normal web browsing, but for ensuring that the applications I build work without

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Yehuda Katz
Visual jQuery does not work without js. That was a purposeful decision I made to get it out the door and working. Obviously, this is something that probably will change in the future, but sites like Visual jQuery often can be released in a less friendly format, *especially if an alternative

Re: [jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-11 Thread Mike Alsup
That's an excellent point Yehuda. It's very easy to under estimate the work involved in making an entire application accessible. I've suffered through this pain for a huge Swing application. But at the same time, people often over estimate what is involved (especially for a small web-app or

[jQuery] Accessibility. Take it Seriously in Your Web Apps.

2006-09-10 Thread Rey Bango
Guys, If you haven't taken accessibility seriously, then you need to read this: http://dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=21297 Rey... ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/