Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-26 Thread Chris Zumbrunn
On Nov 23, 2006, at 21:43 , Jörn Zaefferer wrote: > Barry Nauta schrieb: >> Several statements in two small paragraphs. >> Am I right by making these statements? If this is true, the answer >> lies in >> scoping: small (whatever is meant with this) applications: use a >> scripting >> approach

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-23 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Barry Nauta schrieb: > Several statements in two small paragraphs. > Am I right by making these statements? If this is true, the answer lies in > scoping: small (whatever is meant with this) applications: use a scripting > approach, optionally connecting to a backend written in another langauge.

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-23 Thread Barry Nauta
Wow, thanks all for the reactions! This post is a reply to some of the comments. On Thursday 23 November 2006 00:11, David wrote: > Other articles also suggest php is becoming a front-end language for > java. So why don't you beat them to the punch :) This is a solution that is worth an invest

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-23 Thread Cheng Zhang
We are a group of 5 engineers team happily using Python/Django [1] and jQuery to build a Web 2.0 site. We started to learn and use Django at the end of 2005, after a brief learning and comparison of Django, Ruby on Rails and CakePHP. Given our previous Python background, the decision wasn't

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread David
Barry Nauta schreef: > We currently develop everything in Java (including webapps), > Of course, I am also interested in language characteristics. I know PHP > pretty > well, but the other languages are, from a technical point of view, unknown to > me. > Maybe you can do something with this

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Michael Geary
> Our company is looking for a way for 'quick' web-development. > Small webapps consisting of a few webpages with some minimal > database interaction. > > We currently develop everything in Java (including webapps), > but I find the whole cycle of developing, compiling (java > class files, EJB

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Web Specialist
Project help like a CF JQuery wrapper ya? Cheers 2006/11/22, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Nope I didn't know that but for sure, everyone is welcome to the ColdFusion team! I'm jotting all of these names down for future reference and project help! Rey... Christopher Jordan wrote: > Rey, di

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Rey Bango
Nope I didn't know that but for sure, everyone is welcome to the ColdFusion team! I'm jotting all of these names down for future reference and project help! Rey... Christopher Jordan wrote: > Rey, did you realize you had a team? That's sweet! Can I be on it? :o) > > Chris > > Rey Bango wrote:

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
> Without making a choice for any language, I am looking for arguments why a > dynamic scripting language in general would be better. > Of course, I am also interested in language characteristics. I know PHP > pretty > well, but the other languages are, from a technical point of view, unknown

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Christopher Jordan
Rey, did you realize you had a team? That's sweet! Can I be on it? :o) Chris Rey Bango wrote: :) Sweet! Yep, CF is extremely powerful. Web Specialist wrote: I'm with Rey Bango team: ColdFusion is a great alternative. ___ jQuery mailing li

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Christopher Jordan
Barry, Given your current development environment, I'd strongly suggest ColdFusion (or BlueDragon). Here are my reasons: - ColdFusion (and BD *I think*) is written entirely in Java. ColdFusion give you the ability to seamlessly access Java objects. In this way you could leverage any custom b

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Brandon Aaron
As others have mentioned Ruby on Rails is pretty amazing but I would like to point out Python. I have yet to use any of the frameworks but I've been reading up on Python in my spare time and I really like it (even better than Ruby ... but that is just how my brain works). I hope to experiment with

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Rey Bango
:) Sweet! Yep, CF is extremely powerful. Web Specialist wrote: > I'm with Rey Bango team: ColdFusion is a great alternative. > ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Rey Bango
Hi Sam, As was mentioned, there are a ton of ColdFusion hosting options available. Perhaps not as pervasive as PHP or ASP but certainly abundant and definitely reputable & stable. As for not being able to run it for free, thats a bad misconception. You can definitely run it locally for free. I

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Rey Bango
Hi Sam, > So if the trial version fully functional with no time limits for local > development? Nope no limits other than your limited to local IP connections. > You need a registration to download the trial, so I can't see what you > get with the trial and what happens when it ends. When I see

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Sam Collett
On 22/11/06, Web Specialist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam > > I'll disagree. CF is a powerful and free option for localhost development > acessed by localhost and more 2 machines. Only hosting is paid(GoDaddy.com > haves a plan by US$7,95). > > Running under Java make CF yet more powerful and ea

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Andy Matthews
If you're looking for rapid development, then look no further than Coldfusion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barry Nauta Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:03 AM To: discuss@jquery.com Subject: [jQuery] Off topic: which progra

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Web Specialist
Sam I'll disagree. CF is a powerful and free option for localhost development acessed by localhost and more 2 machines. Only hosting is paid(GoDaddy.comhaves a plan by US$7,95). Running under Java make CF yet more powerful and easy to learn. Cheers. 2006/11/22, Sam Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Peter De Berdt
I too would recommend Ruby on Rails. It's a very powerful full stack framework and pretty easy to get a hang off (even if you don't know ruby). If you really want to program PHP (I did this until a year ago, but try to avoid it as much as possible now), you could have a look at the Rails-like CakeP

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Sam Collett
On 22/11/06, Web Specialist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm with Rey Bango team: ColdFusion is a great alternative. The syntax certainly is easy to understand if you are comfortable with html. Finding hosts that support it may be more difficult, plus you can't run it for free (in a non-trial way)

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Sam Collett
On 22/11/06, Barry Nauta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To all, > > First of all: apologies for this non-jquery related question, but since there > are many experts in web-development on this list, I dare to ask it anyway. > > Our company is looking for a way for 'quick' web-development. Small webapp

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Web Specialist
I'm with Rey Bango team: ColdFusion is a great alternative. 2006/11/22, "Jörn Zaefferer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First of all: apologies for this non-jquery related question, but since > there are many experts in web-development on this list, I dare to ask it anyway. > > Our company is looking

Re: [jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
> First of all: apologies for this non-jquery related question, but since > there are many experts in web-development on this list, I dare to ask it > anyway. > > Our company is looking for a way for 'quick' web-development. Small > webapps consisting of a few webpages with some minimal database

[jQuery] Off topic: which programming language for webdevelopment

2006-11-22 Thread Barry Nauta
To all, First of all: apologies for this non-jquery related question, but since there are many experts in web-development on this list, I dare to ask it anyway. Our company is looking for a way for 'quick' web-development. Small webapps consisting of a few webpages with some minimal database in