Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Gloria Petron
Ah, but that would make sense. :-) When I think cars and gas and oil, I automatically think Special Interest Groups. Not an impossible nut to crack, as we're seeing. But it takes a long time to pull off a major shift in thinking, especially when there's a lot of money to be made keeping things

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
Great questions. I guess a way to rephrase the question would be: When will they start providing services instead of products?. Obviously, as long the business model is 'sell as many products as possible and use whatever resources are cheapest, there aren't too many incentives for them to produce

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Josh Evnin
There's a great article in last month's Interactions Magazine on this topic: Two Digital Divides and Four Perspectiveshttp://interactions.acm.org/content/?p=263by Eli Blevis I think this is the first article in the new series on sustainability. Great stuff, and not off topic for this group at

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Seager
Sebi said: I guess a way to rephrase the question would be: 'When will they start providing services instead of products?' I think that's a shrewd way of looking at it, and it begs another question: When will we demand that? It's like all service. We have to support the services we want and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Gloria Petron
I agree with you that sustainable efforts should start with sustainable thinking, but fortunately, there are some sustainable initiatives that can happen without an altruistic motive. I offer you an example of a business sector which has adopted sustainability, complete with dedicated internal