Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread Pankaj Chawla
Hi Charlie, On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:52:50, Charlie Kreitzberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always positioned myself with clients as the person responsible for the conceptual design of the product. I take input from both the business stakeholders and the technical team and synthesize their

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread dave malouf
Pankaj, I think you are over-generalizing a bit much. First off, an interactions of any type (computer computer and human human and computer human) all can be handled by an IxDA at some level. Usually in the enterprise situation is a mix of all the above that needs to be facilitated within

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread Charlie Kreitzberg
Pankaj: I think your question about the role of solutions architects is a good one. I am not certain where the term comes from but Microsoft defines it here: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/specialties/default.mspx#solutions As I read the definition, the solution architect is a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread Pankaj Chawla
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:37:43, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pankaj, I think you are over-generalizing a bit much. First off, an interactions of any type (computer computer and human human and computer human) all can be handled by an IxDA at some level. I agree 110% with you but

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread dave malouf
In the context of Alan's keynote, I totally agree with Alan. ;) In the context of a more complex conversation, I'm not sure I agree with your assertions and assumptions. In the building world an architect is often partnered with a civil engineer and both are responsible for different aspects of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Dave/Pankaj, I think you're both making valid points, and the answer is, as usual, it depends. I would normally tend to side with Pankaj's side of the argument. I have yet to meet many IxD's who are interested or experienced in designing a device driver communications protocol or a data

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread Pankaj Chawla
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:11:16, dave malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also disagree with your assumption about computer | computer interactions. To me a conversation is a conversation and the IxD is best at creating conversations between any intelligent entities. silicon or carbon. What kind

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-15 Thread dave malouf
Eco-system design is the great next area of IxDers to explore. The iPodiTunes example is the tip of the iceberg. I wish I could go into more detail, but I'm treading on where the work I'm doing is right now. But how does my iPod talk to my PC/Mac is an interaction design problem, not a system

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who does design engineering (Was: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote)

2008-02-14 Thread Charlie Kreitzberg
Pankaj: I think you have pointed out a critical issue for the IxD profession. If, as you say, people involved in the whole process of software creation consider interaction designers to be a small part of the total process, we will not achieve our potential as a profession. I have always