Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Cameron Shorter
P Kishor wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: David, LISAsoft has a java implementation of OpenLS which we would like to Open Source if we can find a sponsor to cover our packaging costs. What kind of costs are "packaging costs," and what do they amount to gen

[OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread maning sambale
Before anything else, let me introduce our dilemma. We are a non-profit geo-research institution. In many cases we produce geospatial datasets no other local institution can create in my country at the moment. What we create are sometimes benchmark info useful to various research and policy init

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread Rafal Wawer
Hi Maning, Normally many of those problem are solved by issuing metadata along with datasets. You can state there clearly who the provider and distributor is and what limitations of the use and distribution have, also the version, last update, quality etc. This much more organizational solution,

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread Woolard, Zachary S.
Some sort of release or disclaimer might be a route that you want to take. Basically something that states the purpose of the dataset, and that you make no warranty as to the correctness, that resale is prohibited, etc. Get it in writing that the parties who receive the data understand what your

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread Raj Singh
Look at the section called, "Copyright Information for use with Australian Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO data" at http://external.opengis.org/twiki_public/bin/view/ClimateChallenge2009/ScenarioAusBOM for an example of how the Australian government has approached the situation. --- Raj O

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
maning sambale wrote: Before anything else, let me introduce our dilemma. We are a non-profit geo-research institution. In many cases we produce geospatial datasets no other local institution can create in my country at the moment. What we create are sometimes benchmark info useful to various

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:58:58PM +0800, maning sambale wrote: > Before anything else, let me introduce our dilemma. We are a > non-profit geo-research institution. In many cases we produce > geospatial datasets no other local institution can create in my > country at the moment. What we create

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread P Kishor
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > P Kishor wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Cameron Shorter >> wrote: >> >>> >>> David, >>> LISAsoft has a java implementation of OpenLS which we would like to Open >>> Source if we can find a sponsor to cover our packaging costs.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

2009-11-03 Thread maning sambale
Thanks! These are all good suggestions. > If you are trying to be open, then be open! Look at OpenStreetMap and how > they do it. They have a page of license violations also. I know about OSM and I consider myself an active contributor in my side of the hemisphere. On a personal capacity, I come

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
P Kishor wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: As you are probably aware, just dumping code into sourceforge is not an effective way to start a successful Open Source project. The above makes sense, but honestly, I had never heard of this until now, and I have

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread P Kishor
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > P Kishor wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Cameron Shorter >> wrote: >> >>> >>> As you are probably aware, just dumping code into sourceforge is not an >>> effective way to start a successful Open Source project. >>> >>> >> >> The

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Daniel Morissette
P Kishor wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: P Kishor wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: David, LISAsoft has a java implementation of OpenLS which we would like to Open Source if we can find a sponsor to cover our packaging costs. What

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread P Kishor
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote: > P Kishor wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Cameron Shorter >> wrote: >>> >>> P Kishor wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > David, > LISAsoft has a java implementation of O

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Picavet Vincent
Hi there, > That said, the main theme of my enquiry still remains -- I > had never heard of "packaging" costs until now, and am > curious about quantifying them. The term «packaging cost» is not really representative of the actual work it includes. We are in fact speaking of code and project q

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Cameron Shorter
Puneet, I don't have a specific answer for "How Much LISAsoft's OpenLS code costs to Open Source" yet, I'd need to do the analysis, and so I'll talk in general terms, based on my experience with other projects. 1. For LISAsoft, "Just dumping code into Sourceforge" is usually not an option. Ou

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread P Kishor
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Puneet, > I don't have a specific answer for "How Much LISAsoft's OpenLS code costs to > Open Source" yet, I'd need to do the analysis, and so I'll talk in general > terms, based on my experience with other projects. > Fair enough. If and w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Location Services

2009-11-03 Thread Brian Russo
If you have big commercial customers I'd approach them. If they're heavily invested in your software then they could see the value potentially. I understand what you're saying tho. Most of the organically-grown projects are those that started as open source and don't compare well to closed2open co

[OSGeo-Discuss] Companies using FOSS GIS in India

2009-11-03 Thread Ravi
Hi, the OSGeo India is preparing for a meeting with Indian policy makers, and wish to gather information (before the meeting )on 1. Indian Universities / Educational institutions using FOSS GIS 2. Indian Companies using FOSS GIS, providing services for FOSS GIS,and undertaking contracts / project