Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Jody Garnett
OSGeo has a mandate to support open source spatial; one of the ways it does so is by helping projects go through an incubation process (resulting a nice logo and some assurance that the project is in fact open source and spatial). The live dvd is another part of promoting open source spatial. J

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
All, I guess it comes down to the argument of whether OSGEO stands for a state of mind, or should it be considered a brand only, not to be sullied by all those unwarmed projects? Move over Apple, there's a new brand in town . . . :c) bobb >>> Mark Leslie 06/07/10 8:27 PM >>> At the risk o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Mark Leslie
At the risk of sounding like a troll, why are we putting non-OSGeo projects on OSGeo marketing material? If this is in fact the purpose of the Live-DVD, then the best way of identifying 2 or 3 of the best packages available for users to trial is to only include 2 or 3 of the best packages on t

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Since this is an OSGeo-based CD, presumably with the OSGeo logo all over it in various places, I'd suggest there are only three kinds of projects: - those which are "Approved by OSGeo" - those which are "Undergoing OSGeo Approval" - everything else With two simple logos you can indicate proje

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Cameron Shorter
There have been some passionate views against rating projects. Maybe I should start by explaining the drivers which led to the proposal for a 5 star rating. Previously only OSGeo graduated and incubation projects were promoted by OSGeo at conferences and the like, however, with the OSGeo Live

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] StackOverflow like GIS website

2010-06-07 Thread Alexis Guéganno
Hi everybody ! I've some news for people who don't keep a watch to stack exchange. Some bad news first. All the votes which had been made have been cleared, and the rules have changed. A question can now be classed in three categories : On-topic, off-topic, and "not a good example". For each of th

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: is wms-dev list still active?

2010-06-07 Thread Adrian Custer
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 11:43 -0400, Yewondwossen Assefa wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to send a question to the wms-dev list > (http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/wms-dev/ ), but It seems to be > inactive. I am wondering if someone knows where would it be > appropriate to send questions regarding WM

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
[foolishly stepping in where I should fear to tread...] This has been asked for before, but historically some projects have not step up to the plate for providing such materials - for a variety of reasons, some good and some not so good. OSGeo should simply put a link to the project's "marketing"

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
All, Did anyone else hear that thunder in the distance? :c) That's what I've been trying to say, let the projects handle this sort of thing themselves, but OSGEO CAN (and SHOULD in my mind) coordinate a standardized look and feel to such things. bobb >>> Howard Butler wrote: On Jun

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Howard Butler
On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Bob Basques wrote: > Wouldn't it seem prudent to classify the projects before trying to compare > them? /me screams into a room that no one can hear. Stop it! This whole exercise is quite frankly, masturbatory, and does nothing to help the projects who would be r

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
Additionally . . . Things like Services, vs Desktop, vs Web Frameworks don't seem to be defined for comparison purposes. Wouldn't it seem prudent to classify the projects before trying to compare them? bobb >>> Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 07/06/2010 17:05, Yves Jacolin ha scritto: > Boob

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
Same here, I would also lik to compare all Javascript like things with other javascript like projects for example. I'm not sure what the best approach to this type of thing either, but the Product data sheet seems like a reasonable method of applying a product summary that could be useful for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 07/06/2010 17:05, Yves Jacolin ha scritto: > Boob, > > You mean something like this : http://www.ohloh.net/p?q=osgeo ? BTW, I wouldn't agree with many of the ratings. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Discuss mailing li

[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: is wms-dev list still active?

2010-06-07 Thread Yewondwossen Assefa
Hi, I was trying to send a question to the wms-dev list (http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/wms-dev/ ), but It seems to be inactive. I am wondering if someone knows where would it be appropriate to send questions regarding WMS specification. Thanks Original Message Subjec

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
All, Close, but it's still got the five star thing, which I have to admit is missleading. Also, where are the criteria that were used to arrive at those star ratings? . . . I mean is that a popularity metirc? In relation to other projects, or simple number of downloads, etc. Also, the only w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Yves Jacolin
Boob, You mean something like this : http://www.ohloh.net/p?q=osgeo ? Regards, Y. Le lundi 07 juin 2010 17:02:44, Bob Basques a écrit : > All, > > Instead of a 5 star rating, what about using a small standardized chart of > some sort. 5-10 items each with their own rating (or classification).

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Basques
All, Instead of a 5 star rating, what about using a small standardized chart of some sort. 5-10 items each with their own rating (or classification). One of these items could be tied to the incubation process for example. Some Items off the top of my head that would be useful (grabbing some

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread P Kishor
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote: > Cameron, > > AFAIK the objective of incubation is *NOT* to rate the maturity of projects: > it is to verify that they have an open and active users and developers > community, open and documented decision and development processes, that th

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Morissette
Cameron, AFAIK the objective of incubation is *NOT* to rate the maturity of projects: it is to verify that they have an open and active users and developers community, open and documented decision and development processes, that the source code is free from IP issues, and that as such the pro

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Comment on OSGeo Project Marketing template before we set it in stone

2010-06-07 Thread Arnulf Christl
On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 08:59 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Arnulf, > I agree that we should only have one marketing template, which will > provide content for a pdf/paper flier, a HTML description for the OSGeo > LiveDVD, and an Open Office Text (odt) format, which can be cut&pasted > into vari