Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-12 Thread Mark Lucas
Totally agree, the foundation should provide an environment that connects agencies, organizations, providers, and members while improving the breadth and quality of oss geospatial solutions. We already have an impressive amount of volunteers and contributors on the various committees and projec

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-12 Thread Jody Garnett
> Agreed. What we want, at osgeo level, it to have fair competition, and to > favour > those who invest back in OS development. Here is the tricky part; certification does not help this (unless we make a really good effort to stress the soft skills; and make such involvement part of the certific

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 15:31, Jody Garnett ha scritto: > What I cannot figure out is where the profit is; or how to pay for people's > involvement. A crucial point, I guess. > Pricing the tests would probably be within market norms; and I would expect a > much > cheaper retry cost (possibly just covering

[OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)

2011-06-12 Thread Jody Garnett
While I concur (I don't want to see the foundation set itself up in competition ) there may yet still be a useful roll to play. What I cannot figure out is how the foundation could expect to make any money from this angle ... any figuring of costs I go through makes it look like a massive effor

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-12 Thread Jody Garnett
Interaction with other committees is separate to the the incubation process currently. I like the idea of the straight up reward system: - participation (provision of quick start etc gets you included on the live dvd) - provision of course materials perhaps could allow projects to participate in

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 02:56, Mark Lucas ha scritto: > I was actually thinking of the reverse - incubation graduation would be > contingent on > getting on the OSGeo-Live disk. Agree it should be gradual, should start out > as a goal. I think now incubating and graduated project is not very obvious to