Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Cameron Shorter
Hi Jeff, Venka, Jody, Rob, Thanks for initiating this discussion and starting to put ideas out for public discussion. Jeff, Venka, I get the impression from your emails that you are concerned that LocationTech might "steal" community mind-share, and in particular take control of key OSGeo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
A few comments inline, the OSGeo board has a face to face meeting coming up (so until that time take my comments here as my viewpoint). On 12 November 2015 at 20:04, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Hi Jeff, Venka, Jody, Rob, > > Thanks for initiating this discussion and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Thanks Jeff or this mail. It explains a lot to me and confirms my vision of the situation. As a board member i suggest not to have any official relationship with LocationTech untill the f2f board meeting. There we could discuss a lot of topics and come out with official positions and view. Maxi

[OSGeo-Discuss] MapIgniter Version 2

2015-11-12 Thread Marco Afonso
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
> > Oh, as some privately enjoy writing to me and saying I am wrong, well yes, > I am often wrong, but at least I am speaking publicly, and trying so hard > always to make sure that OSGeo and FOSS4G are properly represented. > I also fear that my only real skill as a community leader is being

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Cameron, I am also glad to speak of this publicly, this is a very important topic. I have been thinking more and more about Rob's response (thank you so much Rob for taking the time to speak with me on that). I will speak honestly here again, and I don't mean to offend: I am now left

[OSGeo-Discuss] Forrester Interview Request: Spatial Insights Analytics Report

2015-11-12 Thread Miller, Emily
Hi all, My name is Emily Miller and I work at Forrester Research alongside principal analyst, James McCormick, and researcher, Rowan Curran. At the moment, we are conducting research for a new Forrester report titled, "Spatial Insights Power Actions Throughout The Customer Journey." This report

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Seoul videos are available on the web!

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
Thank you very much, this is a wonderful resource. -- Jody Garnett On 10 November 2015 at 17:14, Sanghee Shin wrote: > Dear All, > > FYI, all the videos of FOSS4G Seoul are now available on the web. > https://vimeo.com/album/3605087 This might not be possible without great

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Andrea Ross
Jeff, It is really hard to discuss this topic because you make stuff up. The concerns stem from the fantasy rather than reality. The FAQ produced recently does a pretty good job covering the

[OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
I have not done the best at communicating lately, here is a write up from a fun event held last month in victoria - http://www.how2map.com/2015/10/locationtech-tour-2015.html A really positive mix of OSGeo and LocationTech projects. In many cases this event was the first introduction to open

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 09:29:59PM +, Jody Garnett wrote: > I may as well link to my more recent talk (https://vimeo.com/142989259) as Interesting talk Jody, thank you ! One thing it wasn't clear to me (I might have dreamt it): did you say that LocationTech only accept non-copylefted

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jeff McKenna
On 2015-11-12 7:01 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: I have gotten a number of private emails expressing concerns about LocationTech being involved in several of the foss4g bids. I guess I had the opposite concern last year when there was the joint OSGeo / LocationTech foss4gna conference. I was kind of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Rob, Thanks for this explanation. I can tell you that talking with you has helped, and also that just now the OSGeo Board has agreed to talk about building this LocationTech relationship, at our next face-to-face meeting at the end of January. This is excellent news. These relationships

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Rob Emanuele
Hi Jeff, I'm sorry to hear you are being bullied in private messages. It is perhaps best to bring in the Code of Conduct committee to help handle this; direct threats and private bulling tactics seem in violation with the CoC, and there should be steps taken to ensure that our community doesn't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
> > I hope that LocationTech will also give OSGeo a 90 minute slot in their > big conference someday as well; this would be exactly what I see as > best-case scenario. This already is the case, the locationtech tour is the "big conference". In this case it is a series of small events (ranging

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan
Hi Jody, On 2015/11/12 20:01, Jody Garnett wrote: I have gotten a number of private emails expressing concerns about LocationTech being involved in several of the foss4g bids. I guess I had the opposite concern last year when there was the joint OSGeo / LocationTech foss4gna conference. I was

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Rob, Thank you for your very thoughtful response. You summarize the situation very well. I think talking openly like this on this topic, is the only way to make this all work. It sounds like I am wrong about LocationTech's goals; at the same time then, if that is the case, that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
> Thanks for listening, and thank you Jody for bringing this topic to the > public lists. > After your long email I am not sure I understand what is going on, my main concern was that we be welcoming and collaborative (the same foundation we build open source on). Jody

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Rob Emanuele
Hi Jeff, You are right, commercial-friendliness certainly does play a part in LocationTech. The way I've seen that enacted is by the use of the Eclipse Foundation's legal department to ensure that the projects which are supported by LocationTech are declared by a legal team to be free of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
Certainly. Last year Rob (who is new to our open source community) volunteered to chair foss4gna. I think it is amazing when we have volunteers, especially when they are new to the community. Indeed my first response is to be careful that in their enthusiasm a new volunteer does not take on too

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fun Event in Victoria with mix of OSGeo/LocationTech projects

2015-11-12 Thread Jody Garnett
I am glad this thread is encouraging communication. As stated at the start I would like to do a better job of communication on this one. I guess I can start by saying the two organizations have a much stronger relationship than a Memorandum of Understanding. A MoU is often the first stage of a