Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity Cameron, Yes, your point was very hard to miss. I don't think you need to police this thread quite so hard though. :-) For what it's worth, it makes good business & innovation sense to do more than 1% or so. YMMV th

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Andrea Ross
Cameron, Yes, your point was very hard to miss. I don't think you need to police this thread quite so hard though. :-) For what it's worth, it makes good business & innovation sense to do more than 1% or so. YMMV though, Andrea On May 30, 2016 10:54:06 PM EDT, Cameron Shorter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Cameron Shorter
Marc, Andrea, My point I'm hoping to make is that I think we might be spending more time discussing ethical code-of-conduct type questions than I think we need to. Yes it is important. Yes we need to flag bad behaviour and resolve it. But hopefully we can limit such discussions to 1% (or so)

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Andrea Ross
Cameron, That's an unexpected response. Was someone suggesting OSGeo should be a forum for human rights? Kind regards, Andrea On 30/05/16 17:28, Cameron Shorter wrote: All, While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I personally co-authored the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Marc Vloemans
Cameron, I think you misunderstood the aim of my comment. I am not talking about human rights as such. (Unless they are threatened, of course) I am addressing the need to guard and promote our inclusivity. If we want to grow and develop as a community we need to take any past/present/future

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Cameron Shorter
All, While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I personally co-authored the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel that OSGeo shouldn't aim to be a forum for human rights. (There are other places for this). Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of great OSGeo code, and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Andrea, You are quite right, unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and insights on this could come across as negative. The same happened when I read an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was deemed necessary. Until

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-29 Thread Andrea Ross
Marc, I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related to this but instead decided against as I felt it was stating the obvious and I didn't want the thoughts to be perceived as negative. The essence was that these things you have listed are great, and they help keep things from being

[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-28 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear all, To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the thread below, I invite anyone to supply any suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn Germany, regarding diversity related policies during the actual Conference. Either directly to me or via this list. As LOC we