On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:52:06PM -0700, Robert Bray wrote:
Chris,
I agree and will see what I can do to make it happen. If we want wider
adoption it may also be beneficial to see some kind of C/C++ access library
created for the format. In the past I always felt the FDO Provider was that
that :)
Bob
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From: Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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data format
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:18
Robert Bray wrote:
Chris,
I agree and will see what I can do to make it happen. If we want wider
adoption it may also be beneficial to see some kind of C/C++ access
library created for the format. In the past I always felt the FDO
Provider was that library, but the masses seem to be telling
: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new,open
data format
Robert Bray wrote:
Chris,
I agree and will see what I can do to make it happen. If we want wider
adoption it may also be beneficial to see some kind of C/C++ access
library created for the format. In the past
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 05:17:46PM -0800, Traian Stanev wrote:
How about an OGR driver for SDF? No need to invent a new API when one already
exists.
I think that was exactly Bob's point: There is already an FDO driver for
SDF. If OGR is sufficient, I'm not entirely sure why FDO wouldn't be by
Traian Stanev wrote:
How about an OGR driver for SDF? No need to invent a new API
when one already exists.
Traian,
AFAIKU, that's the idea that triggered the debate
but it would be good if there is non-API specific library for SDF.
The the same library could be used by OGR, FDO, etc.
Cheers
PM
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On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 05:17:46PM -0800, Traian Stanev wrote:
How about an OGR driver for SDF? No need to invent a new API when one already
exists.
I think that was exactly Bob's
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:18:42PM -0800, Robert Bray wrote:
Is it an open format? ABSOLUTELY (we just never wrote a spec, but I am
willing to get it done)
All this said, I'd really like to understand everyones requirements for
this new format. If SDF fits thats great, if not thats ok
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Sent: 18 November 2007 6:26 AM
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dear Steve, all,
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:24:55PM +, Steve Coast wrote
dear Steve, all,
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:24:55PM +, Steve Coast wrote:
Real artists ship. For everyone else there's standards wanking.
As the origins of the word 'yardstick' suggest, size is relative,
and standards and wanking have always been intimately connected.
: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new,open
data format
On 14-Nov-07, at 7:20 AM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
- optional coloring and styles, break values, rendering and
scale limits, persistent joins or relates, color ramp, ...
are things which are provided by SLD
On 11/14/07, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 04:12:21AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would just love to click open and see something nice, specially if
someone has already taken the time to make it beautiful.
Think of it as the output of a word
12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new,open
data format
Regarding the suggestion that MapServer takes on this new format as
the
primary format: I think this is way beyond the scope of what OSGeo
should
be doing.
I agree with bitnerd
P Kishor wrote:
I find two problems with Shapefiles -- one, that it is not in public
domain (I am not even sure of what licensing there is on it), and
while ESRI is not likely to pull a Unisys on us, it just is
philosophically better to free if possible.
Puneet,
I think this is a red
On 11/14/07, David William Bitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never (I think I never did) argued that Shapefile is not open. I
argued that it is not Free. I could be wrong.
Here's the open published specification:
http://www.esri.com/library/whitepapers/pdfs/shapefile.pdf
yes,
I find two problems with Shapefiles -- one, that it is not in public
domain (I am not even sure of what licensing there is on it), and
while ESRI is not likely to pull a Unisys on us, it just is
philosophically better to free if possible.
I don't see this as an issue at all -- legally
Landon Blake wrote:
P.S. - This is probably a crazy idea, but has anyone ever considered
talking to ESRI about cooperating on an update Shapefile spec?
Landon,
I believe ESRI sees the file based geodatabase as filling roughly the
role that the Shapefile played in the ArcView 3.x days. Of
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On 11/14/07, David William Bitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never (I think I never did) argued that Shapefile is not open. I
argued that it is not Free. I could
Frank,
I was watching this PyTables video
[http://www.carabos.com/videos/pytables-1-intro] and one thought came to
my mind: HDF5 can easily be used to store and retrieve vector, raster
and attribute tables. We would need to standardize a schema tough.
Best regards,
Ivan
PS. I am not that
Thanks everyone, for responding. Here is my groundwork.
The new format --
- Should be fast. SQLite is plenty fast, and anything that simply
extends the Shapefile format to inject relational capabilities
should be pretty fast. It should definitely be faster than a
geodatabase format (such as
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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new,open
data format
Thanks everyone, for responding. Here is my groundwork.
The new format --
- Should be fast. SQLite is plenty fast, and anything that simply
extends the Shapefile format to inject relational capabilities
should
Landon wrote:
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I really think you are going to run into problems using the Shapefile
as part of the trademark or name for any product not sold by ESRI. I
strongly recommend against this move.
---
I'm not a lawyer, but I really doubt that shapefile is unique enough to
be
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Thanks everyone, for responding. Here is my groundwork.
The new format
AM
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Thanks everyone, for responding. Here is my groundwork.
The new format --
- Should be fast. SQLite is plenty fast, and anything that simply
extends
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