Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-27 Thread toby10
bpa wrote: > Do you think by toggling input the user will be able to detect such > small timing differences ? Possible, yes. If one input is in Sync (or much closer Sync) than the other, then that input is delayed. AVR is likely doing additional processing. But I agree with you, removing

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-26 Thread bpa
toby10 wrote: > Doesn't need to, you can switch between inputs on the receiver to > compare. OP has a a new AVR (no problem with sync on old AVR) and there is a problem that when synced the delay AVR and radio varies by either 137ms or 69ms. The OP is trying to solve this problem by adjusting

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-26 Thread toby10
mrMuppet wrote: > Yes, but the receiver can't output two sources simultaneously. Would > need a mixer.. Doesn't need to, you can switch between inputs on the receiver to compare. toby10's Profile:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
Yes, but the receiver can't output two sources simultaneously. Would need a mixer.. Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit Tapatalk mrMuppet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34722 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
mrMuppet wrote: > But I can't use analog and digital at the same time Why not ? When ply music on my Touch the analog and digital output both work and output the same audio simultaneously. bpa's Profile:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
I will try it on Tuesday (because I don't own these mics). But I can't use analog and digital at the same time so I can't measure the delay between. I will have to measure the difference between the radio and both different touch modes (analog and digital). Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
I'd like to simplify the test setup. Do you "see" this fluctuation by using both the analog and digital output of Touch and touch not synced. Can you play audio on Touch (not synced with Radio) - audio on Touch Analog output and through AVR using Touch Digital output and then use your mics to

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
Sorry. I don't wanted to criticize your help. I am happy that you offer me that help! I was using the exact default settings for the last three years (before that I used an analog receiver without sync problems) . With the new avr Audio digital has had a big delay, analog a smaller delay and if I

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
mrMuppet wrote: > That's not the problem. I already checked the perfect delay time: 69 and > 178ms. But it changes from time to time which value is the perfect > match. That change of the value is what I would like to stop. YOu have already decided where the problem is. I need to confirm

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
That's not the problem. I already checked the perfect delay time: 69 and 178ms. But it changes from time to time which value is the perfect match. That change of the value is what I would like to stop. Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit Tapatalk

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
mrMuppet wrote: > It is not in sync if I set the delay to zero. But I don't know if it > changes the delay like it does in digital mode. You may have messed up LMS sync by changing various setting. Use default LMS sync settings for both players ( 0 start delay, 0 audio delay, 10ms sync

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
It is not in sync if I set the delay to zero. But I don't know if it changes the delay like it does in digital mode. Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit Tapatalk mrMuppet's Profile:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
mrMuppet wrote: > Touch is connected via optical out. Avr is always in the same settings > (via preset) > > Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit Tapatalk To get ahandle on the issue you need to narrow down where the problem lies. So I am asking you to do a test: Is radio audio synced with audio

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
Touch is connected via optical out. Avr is always in the same settings (via preset) Gesendet von meinem A0001 mit Tapatalk mrMuppet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34722 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa
mrMuppet wrote: > How can i find out? Enable player.sync logging. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105373

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet
After some days: The Sync-delay is changing nearly everyday: its always 137ms or 69ms. but i can't find out why it is changing. Do you have any idea why its doing it? How can i find out? mrMuppet's Profile:

Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-22 Thread mrMuppet
This morning the boxes where complete out of sync again. The delay-setup seemed to be ok. Now after checking it up the new best delay is 69ms and the ansyncroneous starts of the radio are gone. Don't know what changed, but now its all better than yesterday. Hope it doesn't change again.

[slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-21 Thread mrMuppet
Hi, i'm using a touch with a Yamaha AVR (connected via ethernet) and a standalone radio (connected via wlan). My server is Version: 7.9.0 - 1423065676. Due to the known issues of digital receivers i've had to sync them with two mics and a recorder (Found out it was exactly 178 ms). Now both