Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread MrSinatra
Robin Bowes;315106 Wrote: MrSinatra wrote: i am suggesting that developing SC as the only pgm possible to power the hardware isn't the best soluton, given its serious limitations, which are legion. Mr. Sinatra, you're talking bollocks again. SC has its flaws, yes, but from the way

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread radish
MrSinatra;315328 Wrote: i stand by what i said, and if u don't like it or disagree, fine, but i find NOTHING exaggerated with what i said. Just factually incorrect? You're very welcome to your opinion of SC, but what you said regarding it being the only possible option is just flat out wrong.

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread MrSinatra
don't ignore the context of what i said... i was talking about what slim does, and they choose to ONLY develop SC and nothing else. thats the reality. in any case, focusing on my perceived error on this point is a myopic tangent and doesn't change my larger contention; the big picture is no

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread Peter
pablolie wrote: something is weird about the controller's wireless capabilities, the evidence is quite overwhelming when cruising the forums. i wish it was different. Well, I have no problems. I probably don't post that regularly enough... X. ___

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread Peter
chinablues wrote: I have to admit that my friend probably represents a bigger slice of the market than techy folks like me. So he'll probably end up with a Sonos system never know what he is missing in terms of eg. Transporter audophile qualities... Perhaps, but budget wise the Duet

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread aubuti
MrSinatra;315340 Wrote: don't ignore the context of what i said... i was talking about what slim does, and they choose to ONLY develop SC and nothing else. thats the reality. in any case, focusing on my perceived error on this point is a myopic tangent and doesn't change my larger

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread Robin Bowes
MrSinatra wrote: yeah, how DARE i have an opinion that doesn't require pom poms. what was i thinking? Straight in with the fan boy line of defence, I see. *yawn*. i stand by what i said, and if u don't like it or disagree, fine, but i find NOTHING exaggerated with what i said. You

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-27 Thread Robin Bowes
MrSinatra wrote: don't ignore the context of what i said... Ok, here's what you said, in its entirety: again, i respect SC and i'm not saying it should be thrown overboard, but why force it to be the only solution? You then follow that up with: i was talking about what slim does, and they

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-26 Thread Robin Bowes
MrSinatra wrote: i am suggesting that developing SC as the only pgm possible to power the hardware isn't the best soluton, given its serious limitations, which are legion. Mr. Sinatra, you're talking bollocks again. SC has its flaws, yes, but from the way you talk anyone would think it's

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-26 Thread chinablues
Some interesting points in the original few posts about lack of and/or need for clear/simple documentation. As an engineer myself, I have to admit that 'reading the manual' is tantamount to an admission of defeat. But I think I'm the exception, not the rule... I had a nice experience recently

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread dvdit
I almost pulled the trigger today. But I think I rather wait till all bugs are sorted out and proper installation guide is available. Heck, I am not even sure if the sound quality is worth the set up hassle. Loving my X5 in the mean time. -- dvdit

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread radish
MrSinatra;313895 Wrote: again, i respect SC and i'm not saying it should be thrown overboard, but why force it to be the only solution? Who's forcing it to be the only solution? All the protocols are open, you've got SC as a reference implementation, go ahead and make your own. Saying that

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread pablolie
i am a huge SB3 fan. my Duet experience is very lukewarm. the receiver works well. the controller is a problem, and it has nothing to do with documentation - the wireless behavior is erratic, and there are many users reporting such issues. i have gone for many of the suggested workarounds (power

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread dvdit
pablolie;314492 Wrote: i am a huge SB3 fan. my Duet experience is very lukewarm. the receiver works well. the controller is a problem, and it has nothing to do with documentation - the wireless behavior is erratic, and there are many users reporting such issues. i have gone for many of

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread egd
pablolie;314492 Wrote: i have demoted the Duet to where it does little damage - secondary duty in the bedroom system. it's not what i had in mind given the expense, however the last thing i want to do when i am in an audiophile mood to listen to *music* is to troubleshoot and work around

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-23 Thread Nostromo
Thank you for quoting me, but from what I've read, it would seem that your Controller is defective. My Squeezebox never gave me shit. When I encountered major problems, it was 99 times out of 100 the wireless network's fault. And since I upgraded from ADSL to cable, all my wireless problems

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread egd
peter;313750 Wrote: If it works intermittently there must be some kind of wireless problem. No documentation could fix that.Wow, that's insightful, thanks. You've assumed that the Receiver was connected wirelessly. No documentation could fix that! -- egd Internet forums: conclusive

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread Peter
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:00:38 -0700, egd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: peter;313750 Wrote: If it works intermittently there must be some kind of wireless problem. No documentation could fix that.Wow, that's insightful, thanks. You've assumed that the Receiver was connected wirelessly. No

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread MrSinatra
getting back to the op... i think the conclusion of the review is pretty accurate. i still think the SBC is simply amazing, b/c of how easy it is to work it. i can show someone it, and they can use it, almost instantly... i just say click this, click that, and they get it. thats great.

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread Pale Blue Ego
MrSinatra;313872 Wrote: the question ultimately will come up at logitech... do we want to forever more develop a product that needs its own limited music library (via web browser!) software that can run on everything, or do we want to just sell to the 97% of the marketplace that has windows

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread MrSinatra
actually no... i am suggesting that developing SC as the only pgm possible to power the hardware isn't the best soluton, given its serious limitations, which are legion. again, i respect SC and i'm not saying it should be thrown overboard, but why force it to be the only solution? --

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-21 Thread Enoch Soames
Much as I love my Duet, I have to agree with the review. Things have mostly gone right for me so far, not that I can give much credit to the extremely sketchy quick-start guide that came with the Duet. I'm a semi-fiddly kind of guy, so I was able to get it up and running despite the too-brief

[slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread Nostromo
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4464 -- Nostromo http://www.last.fm/user/Guermantez/ Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread cliveb
Once again we read about someone having setup problems, primarily due to lack of documentation. Does the Duet come complete with the user guide? (I got my Duet as part of the beta trial, so I don't know how it's packaged for retail). In my experience, if you carefully follow the setup

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread bklaas
cliveb;313726 Wrote: Once again we read about someone having setup problems, primarily due to lack of documentation. Does the Duet come complete with the user guide? (I got my Duet as part of the beta trial, so I don't know how it's packaged for retail). In my experience, if you carefully

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread Howard Passman
I think the Quick Guide could be better. I also believe if all of the devices (receiver and controller)could be statically addressed (IMHO) via a web browser similar to most routers, switches, NAS, etc..it would be very helpful. My observation of the forums leads me to believe that a good

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread iPhone
cliveb;313726 Wrote: Once again we read about someone having setup problems, primarily due to lack of documentation. Does the Duet come complete with the user guide? (I got my Duet as part of the beta trial, so I don't know how it's packaged for retail). In my experience, if you carefully

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread egd
I read the Duet manual and had seen some posts on the forum prior to configuring my Duet and still had endless crap with it. In all honesty, getting MiP integration working was easier and less esoteric, even without documentation. I've never quite had the Receiver working properly

Re: [slim] Duet review on Notebookreview

2008-06-20 Thread Peter
egd wrote: I've never quite had the Receiver working properly (intermittently only) and the Controller suddenly decided a while ago that it no longer wanted to connect to my WAP (despite everything else I can throw at it connecting) so I gave up on it too and the Duet has now for all intents