Joggler working A-OK. No setup required, it was connected as soon as it
booted up. Probably because I had it connected to the wifi router
downstairs. Thanks for all your help. The good ol' WRT54GL still has its
uses. Can't believe they still sell them new. I got mine for $10 on
Craigslist.
Tonight I will plug the Transporter into the wired router. We'll see
what happens.
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d6jg wrote:
> He never mentioned the dual network on his PC before now. Not once.
Not true. How could I have hooked my Joggler to the downstairs WIFI
router and have access to my upstairs PC?
d6jg wrote:
> He was asked numerous times for details but chose to ignore for whatever
> reason.
I
Man in a van wrote:
> I now nowt about these things, but would resetting the router to the
> default firmware make any difference to ease with which Fizzers could
> accomplish his task? :confused:
>
>
> Ronnie
Already flashed to default Linksys firmware. The only reason I did it
was because
He never mentioned the dual network on his PC before now. Not once.
He was asked numerous times for details but chose to ignore for whatever
reason.
In those circumstances the sensible thing to have done was to use
homeplugs to connect the existing wifi router to his switch and then
reconfigure
I now nowt about these things, but would resetting the router to the
default firmware make any difference to ease with which Fizzers could
accomplish his task? :confused:
Ronnie
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Both routers were the same.
Starting ip address 192.168.1.100 (Both)
ip address range 192.168.1.100 to 149 (Both)
Local IP Address 192.168.1.1 (Both)
The only difference was the wireless router has some DNS
entries...probably for the ISP.
So I changed the "wired router" to 192.168.0.1
At
Fizbin wrote:
> I had a feeling that might be the issue. When I use IE to login, it
> actually tells me where I am logging into. IE reports that it's trying
> to log me into the WIFI PC downstairs.
>
> So how do I assign the "wired router" (upstairs) a different IP?
If you answer the question
I had a feeling that might be the issue. When I use IE to login, it
actually tells me where I am logging into. IE reports that it's trying
to log me into the WIFI PC downstairs.
So how do I assign the "wired router" (upstairs) a different IP?
Fizbin wrote:
> Anyone know why my added router would make my WIFI/Internet slower?
> Sometimes sites randomly take longer to connect. Once connected the
> speed is the same.
The IP range on the new router isn't the same as the wifi is it ?
At a command prompt do ipconfig /all
What is the IP
Anyone know why my added router would make my WIFI/Internet slower?
Sometimes sites randomly take longer to connect. Once connected the
speed is the same.
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I seemed to have found the answer. Both are working now. (Haven't
connected the Transporter/Joggler yet).
In case anyone is curious the instructions I found were here:
http://superuser.com/questions/479654/how-to-use-wireless-and-wired-connection-both-at-a-same-time-in-windows-7
"The trick is
I got a used Linksys WRT54GL (with Tomato firmware) and when I hook it
to my PC (using LAN 1 connection) my PC's internet via wifi goes bye
bye. I have the routers WIFI disabled since I'm using it as a wired
router.
So to recap from above:
-My Windows 8.1 PC is (or was) wired connected to a
Can anyone tell me if a modern router would be any better for me than an
old Linksys WRT54GL? I see lots of these on craigslist. Keep in mind
that I'm disabling wireless...using wired only.
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Ah, silly me. Ok.
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> Not sure what that means.
The D in DHCP is dynamic. The Joggler & Transporter need to get their
IPs from the DHCP server. Depending upon how often you reboot them the
IPs could change dynamically.
The PC on the other hand is acting as a server (LMS) so the 2 clients
> Normally you would make the IP of the LMS PC static
Not sure what that means.
> but in your case this won't matter as there are only 3 devices.
Make that two devices. I'm selling the Touch soon. :) (Will just have
the Transporter and Joggler to control)
Fizbin wrote:
> Sometimes I turn my PC (with LMS) off at night. I don't have a ton of
> files in my LMS directory to scan, so that's not an issue for me. How
> problematic could things get if I go from fixed IP to DHCP? For example,
> when I turn on my Transporter or Joggler (after rebooting my
Sometimes I turn my PC (with LMS) off at night. I don't have a ton of
files in my LMS directory to scan, so that's not an issue for me. How
problematic could things get if I go from fixed IP to DHCP? For example,
when I turn on my Transporter or Joggler (after rebooting my PC) will
they be
Ok, got it. Thanks!
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Fizbin wrote:
> Ok, just took it down stairs again and hooked it up. That option is
> indeed there. Oddly it is not present on the PC version. I was getting
> concerned as the screen was quite bright. :)
>
> I just realized I had another question and I should have checked when I
> had it down
Ok, just took it down stairs again and hooked it up. That option is
indeed there. Oddly it is not present on the PC version. I was getting
concerned as the screen was quite bright. :)
I just realized I had another question and I should have checked when I
had it down there... When I quit
Try this,
from the Home Screen >Settings>Screen>Backlight.
I've never actually altered these from the default but I guess that is
what you want.
Ronnie
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> eriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
> that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
> exactly what he was looking for. And of course it would have but for
I'm very impressed with the Joggler. It's bigger and better quality than
what I
Man in a van wrote:
> Well stuff happens don't it?
>
> He is a decent bloke and I'm sure that the connecion problem will be
> solved wid all the network gurus, innit? like bro :p (this is how old
> people like me think how younger people speak ;) when in actual fact,
> it's mostly effin and
d6jg wrote:
> Seriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
> that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
> exactly what he was looking for. And of course it would have but for ...
Well stuff happens don't it?
He is a decent bloke and I'm sure
Seriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
exactly what he was looking for. And of course it would have but for ...
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Is this the full half hour argument?
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d6jg wrote:
> Correction
>
> All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an Ethernet cable connected to a
> DHCP enabled router ... :)
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well, being a non-pedant I had rather assumed that that would be the
case :rolleyes:
Man in a van wrote:
> Yes, but that was done by me when I installed the OS.
>
> All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an ethernet cable and switch on,
> which he has now managed to do. :)
>
> Ronnie
Correction
All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an Ethernet cable connected to a
DHCP enabled
d6jg wrote:
> Isn't there a first boot set up routine? I have 2x Joggler both wired
> and I thought they did.
Yes, but that was done by me when I installed the OS.
All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an ethernet cable and switch on,
which he has now managed to do. :)
Ronnie
Isn't there a first boot set up routine? I have 2x Joggler both wired
and I thought they did.
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Fizbin wrote:
> BTW... Not sure how you can get those options without a LAN connected.
> It's like a locked door. Once it finds the network and you select it,
> the door unlocks. Is it possible you had those units hooked to a LAN
> prior?
Yes, I checked both the wirelee and the ethernet
BTW... Not sure how you can get those options without a LAN connected.
It's like a locked door. Once it finds the network and you select it,
the door unlocks. Is it possible you had those units hooked to a LAN
prior?
Ok, had some more free time that I thought. Went downstairs and
connected it to the Network. All is good. Lot's of options. Found my PC
upstairs, switched control to Transporter and then chose QUIT.
I wonder what will happen now if I plug it into my switch up here? Now
I'm out of time. I'll
d6jg wrote:
> If you have never set it up then there are different options
No, I set it up for him before I sent it over, checked both wired and
wireless as working.
Without a lan connection it should boot into the Home screen as I
described.
I sent two usb sticks, one with Openpeak and the
If you have never set it up then there are different options
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> Why not connect the Joggler to your router anyway and make sure it's
> working OK, it should go into Squeezeplay with a cable connection.
Yes! Good idea! I'll do that later and report back.
>
>
> I have just booted up a Joggler with Squeezeplay on the Internal memory
> without a Lan
Fizzers, can you get a cheapo one from a recycle place, I have used
D-link before with good results, do some diligence on the model you want
before purchase so that you will be able to connect it correctly.
Why not connect the Joggler to your router anyway and make sure it's
working OK, it
Not into streaming. Or Radio. If mysqueezebox.com ever went down for
good, I'd be one of the few who wouldn't care. :)
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It might be cheaper to use the existing wifi router and a couple of
homeplugs so you can connect the existing switch and make it one large
network. It won't slow things down. It will work and then if you wanted
to you could also stream music from the Internet butvonlybif you wanted
to.
I did a search for switches many months ago and TP-LINK were having
problems with whinny sounding power supplies. I wonder if the routers
are the same? (I really don't expect you to know that, that's sort of
rhetorical)
By the way... Do most people around here (who use wired connections) use
Fizbin wrote:
> I'll look it to getting a wired router then. Do I still need the switch
> or can I just use the router?
>
> What's a good cheap brand to go with?
d6jg wrote:
> No need for the switch if the router has sufficient ports.
> Netgear?
TP-Link are cheap and cheerful
Ronnie.
Fizbin wrote:
> It's in the internal memory.
>
> I bought this unit from some man in a van. My mom always warned me never
> to buy things from men in vans. But as it turned out, this man in a van
> was a ace salesman who didn't even profit from the sale.
>
> Anyway, (some sarcasm aside) he
No need for the switch if the router has sufficient ports.
Netgear?
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I'll look it to getting a wired router then. Do I still need the switch
or can I just use the router?
What's a good cheap brand to go with?
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It's in the internal memory.
I bought this unit from some man in a van. My mom always warned me never
to buy things from men in vans. But as it turned out, this man in a van
was a ace salesman who didn't even profit from the sale.
Anyway, (some sarcasm aside) he set it up in the internal
Just for reference
A static IP is set on the device itself
A reserved IP is set in the DHCP server and says - when the device with
this specific MAC address connects always give it this IP out of the
range
A DHCP also tells devices what DNS server to use so if for example you
wanted to stop
d6jg wrote:
> Correct. And the Squeezeplay OS is designed to work with DHCP as a
> static address is unnecessary for its purpose. Fiddle and you could
> easily brick it.
Is the SqueezeOS on a usb stick or on the Joggler's internal memory? If
it's on internal then I agree with d6jg that messing
DHCP has no affect on network speed at all. It is merely a means of
allocating an ip address when a device starts up.
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Ah, crap. So I'm SOL.
How fast is DHCP vs Static IP? I need a fast connection because I
sometimes use Foobar2000 with my Transporter/Touch. (Yes there is a
script that allows you to do it) It doesn't work so well with slower
connections. So if there is more guess work as to where things are on
Fizbin wrote:
> So I can't access the joggler without knowing the IP?
Correct. And the Squeezeplay OS is designed to work with DHCP as a
static address is unnecessary for its purpose. Fiddle and you could
easily brick it.
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Fizbin wrote:
> Yeah but the WIFI is no where near my switch. It's nice not to have yet
> another trouble shooting issue down the road by adding a router. There
> was a time that I wouldn't even use a switch. I just used a PC to
> Squeezebox cross over cable. :) I hate networks. I walked out a
So I can't access the joggler without knowing the IP?
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> I think I narrowed things down a bit but still need help.
>
> I need to edit a file called interfaces in /etc/network/
>
> From: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
>
>
>
>
>
> But being completely deficient in Linux I have no idea how to access
> this file. I
Yeah but the WIFI is no where near my switch. It's nice not to have yet
another trouble shooting issue down the road by adding a router. There
was a time that I wouldn't even use a switch. I just used a PC to
Squeezebox cross over cable. :) I hate networks. I walked out a job once
because of
You will need the default username & password for the Joggler - from
memory joggler / joggler but google it
Connecting your switch to the wifi router with a wire doesn't mean you
have to use wifi,
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I don't want to mess with my setup. It's never given me a lick of
troubles. This is why I don't use wifi for squeezebox. It's one less
trouble shooting headache.
As for editing the file...
I hook the joggler to the router, download and run Putty. Is there
anything I should know from there?
Plug the Joggler into the wifi router and it should get an IP address.
Then use the connected PC and with Putty do a ssh connection to the
Joggler and edit the file.
I should say though that if you get it wrong you may make the Joggler
unusable.
Why don't you add the switch into the properly
Ah yes of course. I do have a wifi router on another PC, which has cable
internet. But how would I access that PC?
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Normally you would use a PC and Putty to connect and edit the file but
you need an IP address for that.
Connect the Joggler temporarily to your router and see if it gets an IP
address then.
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The Joggler is expecting to find a dhcp server that will give it an IP
address. This is normally part of the routers job. You don't have one do
you?
If that's right then yes you will need to manually edit the network
config file.
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I think I narrowed things down a bit but still need help.
I need to edit a file called interfaces in /etc/network/
From: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
> Configuring the interface manually
>
> If you're configuring it manually then something like this will set the
> default
My setup:
PC with Windows 8.1 running LMS 7.9
Transporter and Touch WIRED to PC via a gigabit switch
I am not registered to mysqueezebox.com (never needed it...I only play
my own files)
Transporter Network settings:
192.168.1.103 (player IP)
255.255.255.0 (subnet mask)
0.0.0.0 (forget what
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