Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread bluegaspode
seanadams;514760 Wrote: Yes but I'm not involved any more and have been out of the loop for a while. One thing Logitech does well is selling to a broader retail market that Slim had trouble reaching. Unfortunately they have chosen not to continue with direct sales of lower volume products

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread Peter314
signor_rossi;514766 Wrote: Is this a USA issue? Because Logitech still sells the Receiver from it's web shop in Italy. Or is this only remaining stock? I still hope that they will update the receiver after the Touch is out. :-) Still freely available in the UK too:

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread DaveWr
bluegaspode;514803 Wrote: Interesting statement. Thing is - and I really can understand sublemon there - that for instance here in the europe logitech shop (also on amazon.de) the receiver is still sold. No mentioning that it is discontinued already. So new users are indeed left in the

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread SilverRS8
The SBR is available as separate product in the Netherlands too at approx €125 -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread toby10
sublemon, I agree with you, the SBR should be made available as a separate item, even if they had to make it a special purchase and increased it's price a bit. I don't use a Duet or SBR myself, but a few alternatives: - buy a used SBR or SB3 (as suggested), I'd sooner buy used than pay 2x that

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread bpa
I think this issue is getting out of hand. The basis for the post is a single e-mail from support telling sublemon that SBR is not longer sold separately. AFAICT This has not been confirmed by any other Logitech rep. There are other instances where support give advice which seem to be wrong or

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread bluegaspode
toby10;514825 Wrote: - plan a vacation in Europe (where it seems the SBR is available) :) Why should we europeans always import from america ? Just try it out and do the other way round. Amazon.de has it in stock 135,56 Euro (this already includes VAT). Sending to US: 14Euro (delivery in

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread Fahzz
bpa;514840 Wrote: I think this issue is getting out of hand. The basis for the post is a single e-mail from support telling sublemon that SBR is not longer sold separately. AFAICT This has not been confirmed by any other Logitech rep. So can we get confirmation on this? I agree with the

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread SteveEast
Looking at Logitech's US web site, the standalone SBR is still shown (at $149.99), BUT you can't buy it through the site since there's no add to cart button. If you select online retailers it shows Staples and CDW as carrying it. Staples site shows it as out of stock, CDW have the availability as

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread aubuti
SteveEast;514962 Wrote: Logitechsqueezebox.com doesn't mention the standalone SBR as a product at all. It does say that you can add additional SBRs to a Duet, but the link from that is broken. www.logitechsqueezebox.com is a ghost site. Don't go there unless you're looking for an archive. All

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread sublemon
bpa;514840 Wrote: I think this issue is getting out of hand. The basis for the post is a single e-mail from support telling sublemon that SBR is not longer sold separately. AFAICT This has not been confirmed by any other Logitech rep. There are other instances where support give advice

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread snarlydwarf
sublemon;514974 Wrote: I think the fact that there is nowhere in the US currently that has stock on new SBRs confirms it's not available. No new ones on Amazon or other internet retailers. Someone here posted that the usual logitech build cycle is to build a ton of units, then sell them all

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread sublemon
My problem is just with Logitech and not the SB as a product. They just seem to have a funny way of handling the business. I know they care about mice and keyboards a lot more but come on, the SB is the most attention-worthy product they have (ok and maybe the remotes they make) -- they should

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread sublemon
snarlydwarf;514976 Wrote: Someone here posted that the usual logitech build cycle is to build a ton of units, then sell them all off before they issue a new build cycle. They supposedly have always done this for keyboards, mice, etc, making retailers go nuts as 'out of stock' conditions can

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-07 Thread thewebgal
sublemon;514730 Wrote: sells DUET as expandable, but then stops selling standalone receivers Deceptive business practice. This is not an old product. they are still selling the duet package new at full price. don't buy logitech squeezebox products. look at sonos or some other

[slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
sells DUET as expandable, but then stops selling standalone receivers Deceptive business practice. This is not an old product. they are still selling the duet package new at full price. don't buy logitech squeezebox products. look at sonos or some other option -- sublemon

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread kdf
deceptive post. ALL squeezebox products work with Duet. It doesn't rely on the Receiver. -k On 2010-02-06, at 8:42 PM, sublemon wrote: sells DUET as expandable, but then stops selling standalone receivers Deceptive business practice. This is not an old product. they are still selling

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
I posted here so other potential logitech customers would see this, even if they aren't looking at the duet. Name me a current SB product that has the same functionality as the SBR, including digital output, at a similar price. Basically I am going to keep contacting them, posting about this

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread seanadams
sublemon;514737 Wrote: I posted here so other potential logitech customers would see this, even if they aren't looking at the duet. Name me a current SB product that has the same functionality as the SBR, including digital output, at a similar price. Basically I am going to keep

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
Connect the Squeezebox Receiver to your stereo or powered speakers and create a musical oasis. Add additional Squeezebox Receivers and listen to a different song in each room, or synchronize them and hear the same music everywhere. (previously on the logitech website - last week - but now

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread seanadams
sublemon;514739 Wrote: Connect the Squeezebox Receiver to your stereo or powered speakers and create a musical oasis. Add additional Squeezebox Receivers and listen to a different song in each room, or synchronize them and hear the same music everywhere. (previously on the logitech website -

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
seanadams;514743 Wrote: You have a point. However, all product offerings eventually change, and if the marketing is now consistent with what's available, what else do you want? Perhaps standalone-SBR was just a stinker of a product - was there a promise that it would be available forever?

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread seanadams
Well I guess you should switch to Sonos. You can get a Zoneplayer for only $... oh, never mind... -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread snarlydwarf
sublemon;514745 Wrote: UGH, not again. Is the Duet old? Was it not released like the beginning of '09 or something? or something since it had been out for a year by that point. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
Are you really the founder? Don't get me wrong, I like the Duet. I want to expand my system because of that. I didn't purchase multiple receivers initially, because, well, there was some history of issues with the Duet frankly. But for me it worked great out of the box. I have a lot, too

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
Bottom line is I feel they should sell the standalone units as long as they continue selling the Duet package. I want to give logitech $$ to buy one or two more recievers. Now I will probably end up spending that money with someone on ebay or on some other product instead. -- sublemon

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread seanadams
sublemon;514751 Wrote: Are you really the founder? Yes but I'm not involved any more and have been out of the loop for a while. One thing Logitech does well is selling to a broader retail market that Slim had trouble reaching. Unfortunately they have chosen not to continue with direct sales of

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
Well its not your fault then. Its probably just because its still sort of a niche product and Logitech don't know exactly what to do with it. Still, how hard is it to just make the products and sell them to the channel or amazon or whatever. They don't really need to worry about direct sales,

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread sublemon
Sorry about my tone earlier btw. Its late and this issue just annoys me. While posting on this stuff I've been happily listening to the system I do have of course. Sigh, maybe I will just get that SB classic... or the Transporter... -- sublemon

Re: [slim] Logitech deceptive marketing - don't buy their products

2010-02-06 Thread signor_rossi
Is this a USA issue? Because Logitech still sells the Receiver from it's web shop in Italy. Or is this only remaining stock? I still hope that they will update the receiver after the Touch is out. :-) -- signor_rossi