Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-04-04 Thread jeremygray
Nonreality;410827 Wrote: > It's a nightmare for you to listen to but you still use AAC? I think you might have misread me. I said that music training makes it a nightmare to listen to off-key vocals, etc. I also said that I can hear compression artifacts in any lossy encoding at any rate I've tri

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread MrSinatra
i do 256kbps mp3s, lame 3.96.1 and higher, at -q1 i don't believe i could reliably tell the difference between them, and a CD, in a proper double blind test, and i'd be willing to bet most people here couldn't either. in fact, if the mp3s were just a wee bit louder than the cds, i bet they'd pic

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread Ron F.
Nonreality;410415 Wrote: > From my experience and readings on hydrogenaudio.org what you are saying > is true up to about 160kbs. When you get into the higher bit rates you > really can't tell any difference between mp3, ogg or aac. There may be > differences in size but it's really not much at

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread Ron F.
Nonreality;410414 Wrote: > Of course, of course. I'm sure no one here would think that you would > use any of those other lowly formats. Just think of the humiliation if > that wasn't so. :) It would be awful! I can't bare to think about it. -- Ron F. *Squeezebox setup:* wireless SB3 -> CI

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-28 Thread Nonreality
It's a nightmare for you to listen to but you still use AAC? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.s

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-28 Thread jeremygray
probedb;410513 Wrote: > To you at least. > > Am currently at -V3 with LAME and can't tell the difference with the > source for most tracks. To you at least. :) I can hear the compression artifacts in any MP3 or AAC bitrate (even 320). Too many years of music training, I suppose. Makes it a nig

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-27 Thread probedb
pfarrell;410419 Wrote: > Its the ten to one compression that sounds terrible. > To you at least. Am currently at -V3 with LAME and can't tell the difference with the source for most tracks. -- probedb Paul. 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/probedb) --

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
Nonreality wrote: > A 256 mp3 is going to sound every bit as good as a 256 aac or ogg. A flac file, lossless and all that, is only about 700kbs. So any 256kbs is not all that compressed. Its the ten to one compression that sounds terrible. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ _

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Nonreality
samlw;72226 Wrote: > I think high-bitrate MP3 is the way I will have to go. In my experience, > AAC sounds better and compresses better than MP3 at a given bitrate. So > I have a personal preference for AAC over MP3. >From my experience and readings on hydrogenaudio.org what you are saying is tru

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Nonreality
Ron F.;410166 Wrote: > My own library is in FLAC of course. Of course, of course. I'm sure no one here would think that you would use any of those other lowly formats. Just think of the humiliation if that wasn't so. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT U

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread DoomWolf
I believe Spotify uses Ogg Vorbis for its streams, so there's a potential larger use for Vorbis in the future. -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://f

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread gorman
In fact, I was simply wondering. Never thought there were no reasons. Also, it could well be that, back then, with the grand majority of AAC music being DRMed, SD thought useless to implement it natively. The market, in this regard, has changed significantly. -- gorman -

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread funkstar
gorman;410221 Wrote: > I wonder what's the reasoning behind keeping Vorbis native and > transcoding AAC. While I don't use AAC at all and use Vorbis for > portable needs... I don't doubt that the market would far prefer the > opposite solution. Some idle speculation: • Perhaps the AAC/AAC+ decode

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread gorman
I wonder what's the reasoning behind keeping Vorbis native and transcoding AAC. While I don't use AAC at all and use Vorbis for portable needs... I don't doubt that the market would far prefer the opposite solution. -- gorman -

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread awy
ianr;410151 Wrote: > > Now that AACPlus is the defacto for iTunes purchases, has there been > any thought given to implementing either native support or at the very > least FF/RW functionality for these files? > SC 7.3.3 will come with AAC/AAC+ support out of the box, using server-side transc

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-25 Thread Ron F.
Where I use AAC and AAC+ is not in my own library, but streaming internet radio stations to my SB3. My own library is in FLAC of course. -- Ron F. *Squeezebox setup:* wireless SB3 -> CI Audio VDA.2 DAC + VAC.1 PSU *Main rig:* NAD 7600 + NAD 2600A -> Phase Tech PC-6.5 speakers *Headphone rig:*

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-25 Thread agillis
Support for various music encoding formats is one of SqueezeCenters strengths. Because SC is extensible Plugins can make it support any type of file. Unfortunately most NAS systems don't have the processing power to handle plugins and transcoding. This is why I created VortexBox to allow the playi

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-25 Thread ianr
Hi, Now that AACPlus is the defacto for iTunes purchases, has there been any thought given to implementing either native support or at the very least FF/RW functionality for these files? I really don't want to transcode the files to mp3 (quality loss) or flac (takes up additional space and no SQ

Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
However, I want to store the music uncompressed... (And no, I don't want to install extra software modules like LAME to convert my uncompressed music to "high quality MP3!") Then you don't want AAC anyway. And if you've encoded your music with AAC, then you've compressed it. AAC is a compres

[slim] Native AAC Support

2005-12-15 Thread samlw
Hi, Are there plans to add native AAC support to the Squeezebox? Not the DRM version - just plain AAC. I bought my Squeezebox expecting to be able to have a central music library accessible by both iTunes and the Squeezebox via SlimServer. However, I want to store the music uncompressed. So this