The latest Sonos update has come out and now supports Last.FM. It states
in their FAQ...
...Sonos does not scrobble tracks from Radio or Sirius Internet
Radio...
So either they have been reading these forums or it's obvious that
internet radio should be excluded.
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Siduhe;347564 Wrote:
As I understand it, what Last.fm expects you to do when it serves up
music to you (as opposed to you scrobbling to it) is one of
listen/skip/love or ban - telling it what you think of the music it's
suggested for you (which it uses to refine those suggestions further
autopilot;347579 Wrote:
I think people are getting muddled. Couple of points here...
a) If that's what Last.FM expected you to do, i would not use the
service. Most of the time i like to sit back and enjoy the music - not
have to constantly interact with every track. And sometimes i would
autopilot;347579 Wrote:
I think people are getting muddled. Couple of points here...
Not so much muddled as maybe my original post wasn't clear. I very much
take your point about general listening to Last.fm - no way I would want
the remote in my hand for that, I prefer just to listen to the
I don't think so. It's still scrobbling correctly, just won't let me
play any of the radio streams.
The server, SqueezeNetwork *and* the player are all configured to use
Last.fm. My last.fm account also allows the SlimServer to scrobble (and
when I play music from my own library it is being
Aha. Was clicking around and got the message 'Your Squeezenetwork
account is not authorised to use last.fm' (or similar). Found there was
one last step that I hadn't done.
Does it have to be this complicated to configure? :)
All appears to be working now though, my bad.
Cheers
Andy
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Hmm...getting very confused now.
I'm listening to 'My Recommendations' via Last.fm on SoftSqueeze. My
server is set to 'No, do not scrobble Internet Radio tracks', but
tracks that are being played are still appearing in my library on
Last.fm.
Are the last.fm stations not classed as Internet
Last.fm comes under Music Services, rather than Internet Radio, so it's
working as intended. I just tend to skip the recommendations I don't
like so they don't scrobble to my account.
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Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)?
-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs
Ah.
Any chance this could be extended? As far as I'm concerned, the stuff
sent by last.fm is a radio station (in that I don't get to choose which
specific tracks I'm listening to) and hence shouldn't be scrobbled.
Comments?
Andy
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adhawkins;347380 Wrote:
Ah.
Any chance this could be extended? As far as I'm concerned, the stuff
sent by last.fm is a radio station (in that I don't get to choose which
specific tracks I'm listening to) and hence shouldn't be scrobbled.
Comments?
Andy
I knew this would come up...
I presume the source of 'L' means it's come from Last.fm? Does that mean
that these tracks aren't then used for recommendations?
If that's the case, then I'm happy for them to be added to my library.
What I'm trying to avoid is being 'Recommended' something that I don't
particularly like, then
andyg;347387 Wrote:
I knew this would come up... does Last.fm's own player let you disable
scrobbling of Last.fm Radio tracks? I don't think it does. So I'm not
sure we should either. Certainly they handle tracks with source of 'L'
properly?!
I dont think it does scrobble it's own tracks
Hi,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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that would be completely silly and totally contradict the whole
point of Last.FM and what it sets out to achieve.
That's kind of my thinking too. I understand last.fm to be building up a
list of my musical taste. If
As I understand it, what Last.fm expects you to do when it serves up
music to you (as opposed to you scrobbling to it) is one of
listen/skip/love or ban - telling it what you think of the music it's
suggested for you (which it uses to refine those suggestions further
via collaborative filtering).
The trouble now appears that I can't listen to Last.FM stations if I
tell it not to scrobble radio stations.
I get a message on the Squeezebox saying To use Last.fm Radio, you
must select a Last.fm account to use on this player
Andy
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Hmmm...even with the setting turned off now I *still* can't use Last.fm
radio stations.
Pretty sure I've got it set up correctly, as if I play something from
my library, it is scrobbled.
Any ideas?
Andy
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adhawkins
You may need to reauthorise your account to use Last.fm - have a look in
settings. I had to re-enter my account details after changing the radio
scrobbling settings.
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Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)?
-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback
andyg;343384 Wrote:
I've added a preference to disable scrobbling of radio tracks to 7.2.1.
Thank you Andy. Open ears for the community, that's what I like here.
Will you also enable this option in Squeezenetwork in the near future?
jo-wie
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I've added a preference to disable scrobbling of radio tracks to 7.2.1.
Note that Now Playing data is still sent to Last.fm but this does not
affect your profile. If you love a radio track, it will be loved and
scrobbled normally.
This preference also applies to music services where you don't
Thanks Andy.
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andyg;343384 Wrote:
I've added a preference to disable scrobbling of radio tracks to 7.2.1.
Note that Now Playing data is still sent to Last.fm but this does not
affect your profile. If you love a radio track, it will be loved and
scrobbled normally.
This preference also applies to
andyg;342667 Wrote:
Isn't the point of scrobbling to log *everything* you play?
NO!!! thats the whole point!
Or put another way - YES - but i dont 'play' the tracks on an internet
radio stations - the station chooses and 'plays' them. Many of which i
am not a great fan of and never want to
that was the main reason why I was asking so I know what to look out
for. When Listening to online radio I disable my last.fm thing.
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Paul Webster;341986 Wrote:
... some SqueezeCenter users would like the option to suppress such
scrobbling.
I'll go and raise it as a feature request if I can't find it in
bugzilla.
Listened to RadioParadies for a day and now I have Sir Elton John
shudder in my recent played music list !
th00ht;342560 Wrote:
Listened to RadioParadies for a day and now I have Sir Elton John
shudder in my recent played music list !
Yes, radio stations should not be scrobbled in my opinion.
Elton John, lol! Thats the main reason as you pointed out that radio
stations should not be scrobbled
th00ht;342560 Wrote:
Yes, radio stations should not be scrobbled in my opinion.
Feel free to add a vote for
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9546
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Radio should certainly be scrobbled, Last.fm just needs to fix their
side of things.
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andyg;342584 Wrote:
Radio should certainly be scrobbled, Last.fm just needs to fix their
side of things.Just curious why you would say that. The listener doesn't
really have a
say so in what is played so in a lot of cases it doesn't reflect their
listening. Sometimes I play stations just
andyg;342584 Wrote:
Radio should certainly be scrobbled, Last.fm just needs to fix their
side of things.
But in the meantime ... ?
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andyg;342584 Wrote:
Radio should certainly be scrobbled
Why? It makes absolutly no sense to scrobble internet radio at all.
What does a load of random tracks you might even not like reflect your
musical taste? Completely goes against the whole point of Last.FM.
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*Server:* SC7.2
The reason is because the Last.fm API docs imply that you should
scrobble everything, and mark different types of data as such:
Code:
The source of the track. Required, must be one of the following codes:
P
Chosen by the user (the most common value, unless you
As an example - try playing RadioInferno (you can find it via SHOUTcast
or you can go direct to
http://http://www.radioinferno.org/inferno.radio.m3u )
Let a few songs play and then examine your last.fm profile.
I am sure you will see some bad names for tracks.
Examples from last few songs
I explained the artist/track parsing earlier, if a station intentionally
sends bad data there isn't much we can do.
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andyg;342698 Wrote:
I explained the artist/track parsing earlier, if a station intentionally
sends bad data there isn't much we can do.
But there is - you could make it optional to submit.
Then users who feel strongly about it could turn off the whole facility
until last.fm stop making type R
Sigh, this shouldn't even be an issue. Maybe I will add a preference.
:(
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I agree entirely - but Slim is just the middleman in this case and there
are multiple imperfections on either side of it (the broadcaster and
last.fm).
I think that for those that play a lot from internet radio stations (as
opposed to internet radio services) there is all sorts of rubbish that
andyg;342584 Wrote:
Radio should certainly be scrobbled, Last.fm just needs to fix their
side of things.
I'm not convinced that it should - or certainly not for those of us
that use last.fm to make reasonable suggestions as to what else we may
like.
However, the ability to 'love' a radio
ahh the stations that I was listening to dont
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However, there have been suggestions from quite a few users that the way
that last.fm handles such scrobbled internet radio plays is not very
good (it goes into your last.fm profile in the same way as a regular
personally selected CD track).
Last.fm have said that they are going to re-evaluate
When listening to RadioTime on one of my radio stations is it normal not
to Squobble to your last.fm account?
Which radio stations do?
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If the radio station provides metadata in the format - it
will scrobble as Artist - Title.
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