Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-04 Thread Geoff B
On 4/2/06, Jack Coates wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: lnxguru wrote: If you want to practice your Linux skills you could use telnet/ssh for command line or consider using a remote X server. Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. The power and RAM you'll need for

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-04 Thread Chip Hart
Geoff B wrote: I'm surpised that nobody's mentioned NX (or freenx). I'm not particularly experienced with linux, so maybe it's just a different form of remote X, but it worked flawlessly for me when I set up a MythTV box recently. It seems pretty efficient, even ssh-tunnelled through my

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Robin Bowes
Jack Coates wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: lnxguru wrote: If you want to practice your Linux skills you could use telnet/ssh for command line or consider using a remote X server. Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. The power and RAM you'll need for this will

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Pat Farrell
lnxguru wrote: The performance of X is actually very good from my experience. VNC is definetly easier. Both will be negatively impacted by busy desktops. Of course with Linux/Unix you don't have to run full desktops -- WindowMaker of Fluxbox are lightweight. Telnet/ssh are even lighter. I'm

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread lnxguru
The performance of X is actually very good from my experience. VNC is definetly easier. Both will be negatively impacted by busy desktops. Of course with Linux/Unix you don't have to run full desktops -- WindowMaker of Fluxbox are lightweight. Telnet/ssh are even lighter. -- lnxguru

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread lnxguru
Agreed, but the OP also wanted to use his SS to learn Linux. I rarely go graphical on my SS and I use NFS for accessing my music files. But this thread does seem to be getting away from the OP and he seems to be elsewhere. Rich -- lnxguru

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Jack Coates
rudholm wrote: ... meh. Each has its place. VNC's performance is horrible, but it is easier than X. It's probably a point of interest that the most popular page on my website is this one: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin-howto -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread bobharp
dangerous_dom Wrote: Want to keep the cost to a minimum, as it's only for slimserver + increacing my Linux skills. Appart from a large HDD, what would people recommend as the minimum specs? Thanks, Dom. What codec (flac, mp3, ogg, etc.) will you use? Drive size keeps increasing and is

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Jack Coates
Robin Bowes wrote: ... Horrible compared to what? I run it on a LAN (100Mb/s) and performance is like-I-was-on-the-machine. I run it over the 'net (256kb/s uplink) and performance is perfectly usable. In what circumstances do you find that native X performs better than VNC? R. MS-RDP

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Jack Coates
Pat Farrell wrote: lnxguru wrote: The performance of X is actually very good from my experience. VNC is definetly easier. Both will be negatively impacted by busy desktops. Of course with Linux/Unix you don't have to run full desktops -- WindowMaker of Fluxbox are lightweight. Telnet/ssh

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread rudholm
stinkingpig Wrote: rudholm wrote: ... meh. Each has its place. VNC's performance is horrible, but it is easier than X. It's probably a point of interest that the most popular page on my website is this one: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin-howto -- Jack

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-03 Thread Jack Coates
rudholm wrote: ... No, null-event alerting/polling is simply not part of how RFB (the protocol VNC uses) works, it's not a question of whose implementation we're considering. New feature? Not at all. VNC runs independent of any video hardware on the server, always has. vncserver requires no

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-02 Thread lnxguru
I can't add much about hardware requirements -- P II or better and 128MB RAM is _more_ than enough for most home set ups. You don't have to start with a huge hard drive if you use LVM but it is usually better to go with fewer drives from a power/heat perspective. And to repeat earlier advise --

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-02 Thread cjhabs
lnxguru Wrote: Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. Xming is a free X implementation for PC - maybe built on Cygwin - not sure. Habs -- cjhabs cjhabs's Profile:

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-02 Thread Robin Bowes
lnxguru wrote: If you want to practice your Linux skills you could use telnet/ssh for command line or consider using a remote X server. Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. The power and RAM you'll need for this will depend on what else you're going to do with this

Re: [slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-02 Thread Jack Coates
Robin Bowes wrote: lnxguru wrote: If you want to practice your Linux skills you could use telnet/ssh for command line or consider using a remote X server. Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. The power and RAM you'll need for this will depend on what else you're

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-04-02 Thread rudholm
stinkingpig Wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: lnxguru wrote: If you want to practice your Linux skills you could use telnet/ssh for command line or consider using a remote X server. Cygwin and Hummingbird(commercial) have X servers for Windows. The power and RAM you'll need for this

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-31 Thread hifisteve
I started off with the intention of building a 'cheap as chips' music server for my SB3 but (as usual with me) I've ended up completely rebuild and upgrading my main PC instead. Problem was is was SOOO noisy that I could stand to leave it switched on all the time. I've now got a good spec PC

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-31 Thread NWP
If you do choose to go the cheap route, check out retrobox.com. A friend just bought a PIII there for $64. -- NWP NWP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3730 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-31 Thread eq72521
hifisteve Wrote: Can't emphasise enough the need for having a duplicate of all your ripped music, I'm using x2 320Gb WD drives with RAID1. The though of having to re-rip 700 cds would having me looking for a train to jump under As has been said here in other forums, *don't* rely on

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-30 Thread eq72521
JJZolx Wrote: Do some research if you can on the system's motherboard and make sure that it can read large hard drives. I've been wondering about this issue myself as I consider buying some older hardware to put into use as a server. Researching the mobos can be tedious and still not turn up

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-30 Thread kkitts
This is always a fuzzy area for me. It seems that I've installed hard drives before that were not supported by the bios by installing Max Blast for Maxtor hard drives. I think that you can usually break past the barriers with the right software. Incidentally, I've installled a Promise ATA100 PCI

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-29 Thread kkitts
I built a system recently that is working just great - performace is fantastic - I only have about 12,000 songs though - recorded in 230kbps mp3. I'd say that this was a deluxe system - but you might take the specs and put in a smaller disk drive and/or a slower CPU and you'd still be fine: I

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-29 Thread DevilsAdvocate
I put together a mini-itx box, although mine runs XP (already had a license) there are Linux builds. Fanless MII - approx £70 - ebay http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/epia_m2/ 512MB - £25 ebay 160GB Disk - Samsung Spinpont approx 70-80 Also had a PCMCIA wireless card hanging

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-29 Thread JJZolx
dangerous_dom Wrote: Want to keep the cost to a minimum, as it's only for slimserver + increacing my Linux skills. Appart from a large HDD, what would people recommend as the minimum specs? Minimum means different things to different people. You could get it to run on ridiculously low spec'd

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-28 Thread jonmyatt
dangerous_dom Wrote: Want to keep the cost to a minimum, as it's only for slimserver + increacing my Linux skills. Appart from a large HDD, what would people recommend as the minimum specs? Thanks, Dom. Go for it. I've a 2-ish Ghz P4 here with a cheap 40-odd quid ASUS motherboard, and I

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-28 Thread rudholm
If you're going to be doing any bit-rate limiting on playback, you'll need more CPU than if you didn't (since the server has to decode and simultaneously re-encode your music in real-time). But aside from that, you really don't need much. -- rudholm

[slim] Re: Thinking of buying/building linux based music server...

2006-03-27 Thread snarlydwarf
Mine is serving just under 10k tracks (it should hit 10k sometime in the next few days though if the post office cooperates..) with a P2/400 and 256M of RAM. I am using mysql (for no real reason other than I know it and can play with it... I use it to figure out what doesn't have musicbrainz