Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Baumgarten
Vidur Apparao wrote: You're right - I believe there is scope for substantial improvement here. Please file an enhancement bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com, assign it to me and target it for 6.1. Cool. I just changed my recently filed bug 1497 from a bug to an enhancement request, targeted it f

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-05 Thread Vidur Apparao
Steve Baumgarten wrote: Which brings me back to my initial post on this, and why I was so surprised to find that "Browse Music Folder" took so long in 6.0.2. You're right - I believe there is scope for substantial improvement here. Please file an enhancement bug at http://bugs.slimdevices.com,

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread JJZolx
Steve Baumgarten Wrote: > I kind of understand what's going on behind the scene. If you think > about it, what can SlimServer do when it descends into a directory? > > If it just spit back a raw directory listing, well, that's OK as far > as > it goes, but then none of the tracks would be "clic

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread kdf
if you can read perl, the handler for browse music folder(and browse playlists) is in Pages.pm, sub browser() and browser_addtolist_done() If you have any suggestions or find any places where there is room to optimise, let me know. I would love to be able to understand that part, but I just cant

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread Steve Baumgarten
JJZolx wrote: > IMO, it's just plain silly to use this method of navigation to build > the database. Aren't there better options for low-cost methods of > cataloging newly added files? I kind of understand what's going on behind the scene. If you think about it, what can SlimServer do when it de

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread kdf
Quoting JJZolx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > IMO, it's just plain silly to use this method of navigation to build > the database. Aren't there better options for low-cost methods of > cataloging newly added files? Lots of options/plans, none implemented yet. Resources are tied up elsewhere. As always,

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread JJZolx
kdf Wrote: > It is a known issue, but those who have spent the most time working with > it are not sure, at this time, how to optimise it any more without > losing aspects of the design. IMO, it's just plain silly to use this method of navigation to build the database. Aren't there better optio

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread kdf
Quoting SlimPvC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks, that does clear things up for me! > However, in case of using the Browse Music Folder, it does not 'feel' > like an enhancement. Although technically, I'm sure it is. I can certainly understand that. The enhancement of it is not really seen so much

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread SlimPvC
kdf Wrote: > There was no database in 5.4.x. All data was loaded and stored in ram, > hence > the long startup and heavy ram usage. 6.x has a faster startup, but > the data > is primarily stored on disc in a database. scanning files, and hitting > the > database means accessing the filesystem.

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread kdf
There was no database in 5.4.x. All data was loaded and stored in ram, hence the long startup and heavy ram usage. 6.x has a faster startup, but the data is primarily stored on disc in a database. scanning files, and hitting the database means accessing the filesystem. Browse music folder does

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread SlimPvC
Steve Baumgarten Wrote: > Jim wrote: > > > > 1 - Don't use browse folders, tag all your stuff correctly.[/color] > > My stuff is all tagged 100% correctly, and SlimServer's DB reflects > this. For what I want to be able to do, however, it's not enough. > I second this post. I use 'browse mus

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread kdf
Quoting "max.spicer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Dan Sully Wrote: > > > > Artist names are shown in these listings in the 6.1 tree. We listen! :) > This is a preference in 6.1. If you want to enable it , look under > Server Settings->Formatting (a strange place to put such prefs, > IMHO!). except t

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread max . spicer
Dan Sully Wrote: > > Artist names are shown in these listings in the 6.1 tree. We listen! :) This is a preference in 6.1. If you want to enable it , look under Server Settings->Formatting (a strange place to put such prefs, IMHO!). Max -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible ro

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread nemstter
Jim Wrote: > > > 1 - Don't use browse folders, tag all your stuff correctly. > > 2 - Seperate your folders into subfolders, e.g. "D:\Music\Beatles - > White Album\" could become "D:\Music\B\Beatles\White Album" nr 1 would be nice but damn time consuming nr 2 nAH i dont use window$... i see

Re: [slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread Steve Baumgarten
Jim wrote: But then you're going to be moaning about a 5-minute startup time as it would need to scan all the folders to put them into a database (kind of like a lite version of the existing rescan). It takes 15 seconds for a perl script to traverse my 800 folder, 16,000 track music library on Win

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread Jim
But then you're going to be moaning about a 5-minute startup time as it would need to scan all the folders to put them into a database (kind of like a lite version of the existing rescan). Windows provides no easy way to see if new folders were added to a folder, especially when in the name of sp

[slim] Re: sort order and database speed

2005-05-04 Thread nemstter
about the slow issue: i thinks its only when i browse folder. wouldn^t it be possible to add the dirs to database aswell? -- nemstter ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss