[slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread ejevs
Im pretty hoocked on bying a squeezebox BUT. The soundbridge is an option and af far as i can see it does everythin the squeezebox does plus beeing mouch more autonome (can function with upnp alone. Unfortunately it is really ugly. I havo now been throug lots of reviews but noboddy addressed the

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread snarlydwarf
It does less? News to me... It also sounds better, since it doesn't resample everything. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread plympton
snarlydwarf;238939 Wrote: It does less? News to me... It also sounds better, since it doesn't resample everything. I think he means it's better because it's autonomous - it doesn't REQUIRE a server, just a UPNP server (or a Samba share?). Maybe I'm just confused.. it's been a while

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread ejevs
snarlydwarf;238939 Wrote: It does less? News to me... It also sounds better, since it doesn't resample everything. Guessed so, since it only plays an mp3 stream i thought it needed a much smaler cpu, am I wrong ? -- ejevs

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread snarlydwarf
The Soundbridge takes CD-type input (44.1kHz sampling) and resamples to 48kHz. That degrades quality. (You can see the effect visually by resizing an image to a non-multiple. The real world doesn't work like TV where CSI can enlarge a photo to infinite resolution... what happens when you

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread snarlydwarf
And more little we cut corners things: M1001: 280x16 VFD (4480 pixels) SB3: 320x32 grayscale pixels (10240 pixels). No wonder the display looks so icky in the Soundbridge pics. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile:

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread mvalera
The Roku is basically a knockoff of our old SB2. You can go with the BMW or the Hyundai. They both do the same thing, but one is definitely superior to the other. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting snarlydwarf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The Soundbridge takes CD-type input (44.1kHz sampling) and resamples to 48kHz. That degrades quality. (You can see the effect visually by resizing an image to a non-multiple. The real world doesn't work like TV where CSI can enlarge a photo to

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread ejevs
Thanks for the input. I could newer afford a BMW. Musicquality matters, as I intend to use i with a nice system Display does not (if it did I proberly would get a sonos) Opensource matters two (I'm listening to slimserver with softsqueeze right now) But to summerize: Soundbridge would connect to

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread snarlydwarf
Dave Dewey;238963 Wrote: And that FLAC support is through transcoding to mp3, right? It doesn't support FLAC in hardware. Well the Soundbridge says it does WAV, so their ancient version of SlimServer could transcode to WAV... (only to have it resampled to 48kHz...) I'm very interested

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread seanadams
Actually, soundbridge emulates a Squeezebox _1_ (2003), but since it has a different button arrangement, it doesn't even do that correctly. Ejevs, if you are really on the fence then I would recommend buying both and returning whichever one doesn't work for you. -- seanadams

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread maggior
A key differentiating feature that I see is gapless support with both lossless (FLAC, etc.) and LAME mp3 formats. I've seen discussion of gapless support in the Roku forums and to my knowledge the feature has never been delivered. -- maggior

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread y360
http://forums.rokulabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=7009 The above post discusses a noise problem introduced in M1001 due to hardware redesign. There are many complaints about the noise in this model because of its re-sampling. -- y360

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread snarlydwarf
ejevs;238962 Wrote: Thanks for the input. I could newer afford a BMW. Well, the price difference in this case is a hundred bucks not thousands... Musicquality matters, as I intend to use i with a nice system The SB3 easily wins that. Display does not (if it did I proberly would get a

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread mvalera
I'm afraid you didn't understand the analogy... The Roku is inferior in almost every way. DAC, Signal to noise ratio, formats supported, software, support, construction, wireless spec and wireless security. Go compare the spec, and make sure you are looking at the m1000 and not m500 specs as

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread Pat Farrell
ejevs wrote: Im pretty hoocked on bying a squeezebox BUT. The soundbridge is an option and af far as i can see it does everythin the squeezebox does Most of us don't agree that it does everything, And its clear it does not do what it tries to do as well. More importantly, the SB3 is

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread mvalera
Just a note that we support AES/TKIP WPA2, not the server based enterprise stuff. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile:

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread ejevs
Incredible, i posted this question about an hour ago. And am now convinced that this is the right bye for my studio (and later proberly also home), I was already convinced but then the last post nailed it reg. WPA2 support, theres is no way i'm gonna settle for WEP at work. I be back when I got

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread bpa
For the sake of being correct. The M1001 which replaced the original M1000 supports WPA but because of confusion with users Roku now call the M1001 - M1000. So now there are two different specs for the M1000 depending on whether it is the old or new model. Also outside the US the Roku is sold

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread mvalera
Ok then: M1001 WEP/WPA : SB3 WEP/WPA/WPA2 -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread bernt
This is the main reasons why I chose Squeezebox over Soundbridge. 1. Native flac support. 2. 802.11g. 3. The look. 4. Server Plugins. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile:

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread bpa
A few more differences between Roku and Squeezebox. Only native lossless formats supported are WAV and AIFF. Itunes integration only using Roku branded unit - if Pinnacle branded unit is used then Itunes support is only possible using the Firefly server which user will need to install

Re: [slim] Squeezebox or Soundbridge ???

2007-10-30 Thread tgoldstone
Oh and don't forget the free pony you get with every unit purchased! :) -- tgoldstone tgoldstone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=373 View this thread: