Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread Letten
chroma;508694 Wrote: I have a collection of collections used by other individuals and software. Forgive me, but this sounds illegal. Like copying friends music collections and dont want to bother deleting duplicates! (I'm not saying you are) The usual scenario is that you use SC on your own

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread chroma
erland;511152 Wrote: Doesn't the removed albums and tracks appear again when you use Music Folder browsing ? I thought the SBS scanner rescanned automatically when browsing a folder with the browse Music Folder mechanism. yes, which is why i want them removed at the presentation layer

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread JJZolx
chroma;511171 Wrote: yes, which is why i want them removed at the presentation layer rather than having to remove them entirely from the DB. now that I have a flag set on each track that i don't want to appear in search or browse, that should be easy, just need to find the right entry point.

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread chroma
I've provided the heuristic, the code, the driving use case. Rather than telling me further that I don't know what I want or that I am part of some 'bad joke', there are three reasonable options here: 1) provide a working model for the existing software which meets the stated requirements 2)

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread Phil Leigh
chroma;511331 Wrote: Lets get down to actually solving the problem. Thanks I guess you know that your OP set the tone for this thread. There is no the problem - there is just your problem. Please will someone tell Chroma how to patch in his code into his installation (this will NEVER be a

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread aubuti
chroma;508694 Wrote: I declare a $250 starting bounty on getting this done. ...maybe you need to increase the bounty -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread:

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-28 Thread Chris Laplante
I'll match his $250. -Chris On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:57 PM, aubuti aubuti.45iren1264715...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: chroma;508694 Wrote: I declare a $250 starting bounty on getting this done. ...maybe you need to increase the bounty -- aubuti

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-27 Thread chroma
i appreciate that some of you are trying to be helpful. let me clarify the requirements again: - the filesystem must remain unmodified. no symlinks. no changing whats there. it is a correct set of collections of collections. it is correctly tagged. - users want to be able to use the browse

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-27 Thread erland
Doesn't the removed albums and tracks appear again when you use Music Folder browsing ? I thought the SBS scanner rescanned automatically when browsing a folder with the browse Music Folder mechanism. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-24 Thread MelonMonkey
You mentioned corrected tags, yet your music collection is anything but correct. IMO, you're looking for a solution to be implemented universally for a problem that is singular to your system that you yourself have created. You can, as suggested, fix your music collection. Much faster than a

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-24 Thread bobkoure
chroma;509702 Wrote: i think you guys are making this entirely too complicated...Or maybe we're trying to think of a group of users (other than just you and your house/apartment/dorm mates) who might need something like this. Actually, it's not clear that they care about this much, so it may

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-24 Thread Mnyb
But browse music folder is just that. it specially done to not read tags or implement any intelligence. it's there so people can browse and use untagged or badly tagged files ? anything but a simple file browser for browse music folder will create a mess for countless other users ? you browse to

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-24 Thread erland
chroma;509702 Wrote: for example, the following query does 95% of what is required: select C2.id, C2.title, C2.contributor, C2.year, SUM(tracks.filesize) FROM albums as C1, albums as C2 JOIN tracks WHERE C1.title = C2.title AND C1.contributor = C2.contributor AND (c1.year = c2.year

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-23 Thread Zaragon
I would ask the question how does the system know that the multiple sets are different except for the bit-rate or encoding? There are lots of things that seem obvious but that when you try to code them become absolutely horrendous. Bearing in mind the SC deals in tracks and it is the tags and

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-23 Thread bobkoure
So maybe the answer is to move the encoding and bitrate into the tags, either as a separate tags or maybe just as one of the multiple genres. If you've got everything sorted into directory trees, you could just use an MP3Tags action to either add a tag (stupidly easy) or to add a genre (slightly

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-23 Thread chroma
i think you guys are making this entirely too complicated... this is an album level, not a track level, function. the only comparison i care about is at the album level. i'll take whatever art and individual track versions exist with the album that is selected. i require retention of browse

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-23 Thread chroma
say you have a collective living situation. common recreation areas and sound systems. squeezeboxes in each of them. people come in with their own collections of stuff. there is a fair amount of overlap because they have similar taste. each collection is very well groomed on its own. the

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-22 Thread erland
Are you talking about searching or browsing ? Are the sub collections stable ? If they are you can just create your collection by creating a directory that just contains links/shortcuts to the albums you want to include. Because the SBS scanner auto detects files on the disk sometimes, for

[slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-20 Thread chroma
I do not understand why it is necessary for me to get five first-level indistinguishable results if i have five copies (of various quality or encoding method, or from multiple users libraries) of the same album in my collection. I want a basic heuristic on the presentation layer that says: If

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-20 Thread DaveWr
I don't understand why you have that many duplicates in the first place. If you want the highest bit rate, just delete the rest (well move them out of you music folder). IMHO this is not a show stopper. There are many more important searching / playlisting issues. Dave -- DaveWr

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-20 Thread chroma
I have a collection of collections used by other individuals and software. They have organization which is important to retain for their own reasons. The place to clean them up is at the presentation level, or at the very least at the scanner level. I declare a $250 starting bounty on getting

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-20 Thread DaveWr
I agree with you about the logic, but the commercial need for this must be small. You need a third party developer, or maybe one of Erland's plug ins might help, Custom Scan + Custom Browse. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's