Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Pernegger
> Search could be case insensitive (match as much as you can, right) Exactly. > Browse lists can use whatever comes first I'm fine with everything that can be turned off ;) C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdev

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread kdf
Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not sure if kdf's latest proposal solves this issue for me. I think not > because I want "The Anything" to be merged with "Anything" during browse > artist or browse genre. I was only speaking about case sensitivity. I'm specifically refraining

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Phillip Kerman
> > Maybe you're confusing searching for / finding something with > displaying it? > > Searching for 'rolling' in any case or combination of cases should > give you 'Rolling Stones' and 'The Rolling Stones', but as two > seperate results and not merged together - there's no way to > dertermine w

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread kdf
Having done a bit of poking around at another device in my possession, I think a compromise can make sense for both camps. Search could be case insensitive (match as much as you can, right) Browse lists can use whatever comes first (subsequent variations as the list is compiled can match case ins

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Pernegger
Maybe you're confusing searching for / finding something with displaying it? Searching for 'rolling' in any case or combination of cases should give you 'Rolling Stones' and 'The Rolling Stones', but as two seperate results and not merged together - there's no way to dertermine which of the two sp

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Phillip Kerman
> > If find "Rolling Stones"... go through all the albums and > it looks like one is > > missing... nope, I have to go back up then move on to the > OTHER artist... > > "The Rolling Stones". > > The point of the ARTIST tag is that tracks by the same artist should > share a common tag. For one ar

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Pernegger
> If find "Rolling Stones"... go through all the albums and it looks like one is > missing... nope, I have to go back up then move on to the OTHER artist... > "The Rolling Stones". The point of the ARTIST tag is that tracks by the same artist should share a common tag. For one artist you have to u

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Phillip Kerman
> --browse by artist find an artist... dig into their albums... loop > through a few times to find the album I want is listed under > the same artist > case. Or, despite having said "ignore articles" in the settings... If find "Rolling Stones"... go through all the albums and it looks like on

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Phillip Kerman
> > P.S. Really, seriously, I don't understand why someone > would want sorting to > > be based on case when finding music. After all, when you > search for a song > > by entering a few characters those are not case sensitive. > Please tell me > > you wouldn't want it to be in that case. "Sea

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Pernegger
> P.S. Really, seriously, I don't understand why someone would want sorting to > be based on case when finding music. After all, when you search for a song > by entering a few characters those are not case sensitive. Please tell me > you wouldn't want it to be in that case. "Search for Punk" fou

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Phillip Kerman
> Phillip Kerman wrote: > >>Somehow I don't see SlimServer as ever being intended as a "tag > >>debugging" tool. Case insensitivity is hardly AI. We're > not talking > >>about spelling or grammar correction. > > > > Totally. If making the server ignore case is really going > to ruffle that >

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Jack Coates
Phillip Kerman wrote: Somehow I don't see SlimServer as ever being intended as a "tag debugging" tool. Case insensitivity is hardly AI. We're not talking about spelling or grammar correction. Totally. If making the server ignore case is really going to ruffle that many peoples' way of doing thin

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Jack Coates
Alok K. Dhir wrote: Speaking of spotting errors through the web interface, it sure would be nice if we could fix them right there, within the web interface. Perhaps a right click context menu on each song which allows selecting a 'edit tags' option... I've looked at implementing this, but it's

RE: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Phillip Kerman
> Somehow I don't see SlimServer as ever being intended as a "tag > debugging" tool. Case insensitivity is hardly AI. We're not talking > about spelling or grammar correction. > Totally. If making the server ignore case is really going to ruffle that many peoples' way of doing things then it s

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Richie
> Somehow I don't see SlimServer as ever being intended as a "tag > debugging" tool. Case insensitivity is hardly AI. We're not talking > about spelling or grammar correction. > -- > JJZolx But surely getting SlimServer to guess the correct tag would be classed a form of debugging. I'd like to h

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread kdf
a request that is already admitting a need to be optional presents a few issues: 1) not only does support have to implemented for feature on, and feature off, but also feature going from on to off, and off to on cleanly, quickly, and without harming any other feature (I'm sure you remember all th

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Christian Pernegger
> This has come up before, and often sparks a very heated response. There are a > large number of users who have very valid concerns ofver slimserver writing > over their carefully tagged files, as the front end is a publicly accessible > interface. Slimserver does not have more than a basic secu

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread kdf
Quoting "Alok K. Dhir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Speaking of spotting errors through the web interface, it sure would be > nice if we could fix them right there, within the web interface. > Perhaps a right click context menu on each song which allows selecting a > 'edit tags' option... This has come

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Christian Pernegger
No question, the slimserver's way of handling tags can be improved. Starting with supporting multiple instances of the same TAG in VorbisComments, and proper support of 'ALBUM ARTIST', so people can choose what to _display_ in the artist field for a various artists album. At the very least there sh

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Alok K. Dhir
Speaking of spotting errors through the web interface, it sure would be nice if we could fix them right there, within the web interface. Perhaps a right click context menu on each song which allows selecting a 'edit tags' option... Richie wrote: On 5/17/05, Aaron Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Richie
On 5/17/05, Aaron Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any way to vote *against* enhancement or bug requests? The server > should show what's in your tags. Period. That way people can use their I'd agree with this. As methodical as I try to be when tagging my files I occasionally get it

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-17 Thread Aaron Zinck
Is there any way to vote *against* enhancement or bug requests? The server should show what's in your tags. Period. That way people can use their tags however they want and they don't end up getting confused by having Michael Jackson songs listed only under mICHAEL jACKSON simply because they ha

Re: [slim] Re: sorting (ignoring "the" and case insensitivity)

2005-05-16 Thread Simon Still
On 5/16/05, JJZolx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been pretty careful tagging files (as you're pretty much forced > to, given the unforgiving nature of SlimServer's cataloging), so I was > unaware of the case sensitivity issue. I find it hard to believe that > it was implemented like this on pu