Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread Steve Haddock
I would say I have intermediate to high experience with R, and have taught it a few times. Even so, although I feel I could come up with a working solution for most random questions, I am still not very confident that I will be giving the optimal Hadley-approved R-like solution (probably involvi

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread John Blischak
Hi Jason, On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Jason Bell wrote: > This being my first post to this list, as I recently become a software > carpentry instructor (as of last week) and I hope this is the appropriate > channel to ask a few questions in regards to learning, and then teaching, R > and pyt

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:20:33PM -0500, Jason Sherman wrote: > I guess I was thinking that this would be a docker image supported > via the new docker on windows. The Kirkland post [1] Robin linked [2] has: "Ah, okay, so this is Ubuntu in a container then?" Nope! This isn't a container ei

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread E.W.
I'm going to give you my completely biased librarian point of view here, but I also hold open data helpdesk hours and facilitate a weekly Python user's group. So I have fielded a lot of questions about R and Python. Some come in knowing the names and "just want to get started" while others have a

Re: [Discuss] Workshop with locked-down machines

2016-03-30 Thread Julia Gustavsen
Just another thought, if you can get the computers set up beforehand I think this could be a great opportunity for pair programming (and I like the idea of time where interested parties can work on their personal setup). Last fall I took a python course organized by Tiziano Zito ( https://python.g

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread Giuseppe Profiti
Hi Jason, I'm going to answer to just one of your points. 2016-03-30 8:09 GMT+02:00 Jason Bell : > > · Do you think “instructors” should know more than just the > teaching material for the “subjects” they plan on teaching. For example, I > recently ran a local “UNIX Shell” locally and gi

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread Brian Stucky
With regards to this question: > Is there still a place for researchers to learn programming languages such > as C/C++ - from a program “execution” speed, C is pretty hard to compete > again, especially when looking to HPC types of programs. I would certainly say "yes", for exactly the reason

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 01:50:05PM -0500, Mark Laufersweiler wrote: > And a command line is not a windows environment. So unless they put > hooks into the DirectX directly (ugh), then there is still the need > to have X11 hanging around there somewhere. But maybe then again > apt-get install X11*

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread Robin Wilson
On 30 Mar 2016, at 19:44, W. Trevor King wrote: > I'm not sure how that would happen though. Have Canonical/Microsoft > ported all of those applications to also run on a Windows kernel? Are > they using something like Cygwin's shim layer to put a POSIX interface > on top of Window's kernel? Th

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread Mark Laufersweiler
And a command line is not a windows environment. So unless they put hooks into the DirectX directly (ugh), then there is still the need to have X11 hanging around there somewhere. But maybe then again apt-get install X11* -mjl --

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread Ethan White
On 03/30/2016 02:44 PM, W. Trevor King wrote: It's not April 1st yet is it? Because this [1] makes it look like Windows will also support apt-get (after you turn all this on via a developer setting). Which would be pretty awesome, and mean we could replace all our Windows-installation hoop jump

Re: [Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:07:54PM +0200, Lukas Weber wrote: > FYI, apparently Microsoft is adding Bash to Windows 10 in the next > big update mid-year: > http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash It's not April 1st yet is it? Because this [1] makes it look li

[Discuss] Bash in Windows 10 mid-year update

2016-03-30 Thread Lukas Weber
Hi everyone, FYI, apparently Microsoft is adding Bash to Windows 10 in the next big update mid-year: http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash If this is real, it will make things much much easier for teaching Shell lessons. Cheers, Lukas Lukas Weber PhD st

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 06:09:52AM +, Jason Bell wrote: > I have been quite interested in reading some of the recent emails to > this list about programming languages… I agree with the blog post [1] Greg linked [2] and Alexandre's [3] that the libraries and community around a language are very

Re: [Discuss] Any tips for learning R and Python?

2016-03-30 Thread Alfred Essa
There are a number of excellent MOOC courses on learning R. However, I think the quickest path is to pick up a copy of Jared Lander's "R for Everyone: Advanced Analytics and Graphics." http://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Advanced-Analytics-Graphics-Addison-Wesley/dp/0321888030/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_t