Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-08-04 Thread Alastair Campbell
Thanks to everyone (especially Tim) for your feedback on this. Gez Lemon has updated the article to include Voiceover: http://juicystudio.com/article/screen-reader-mouseover.php#voiceover They will be following up later with other JavaScript events, for which I'll help to provide the results for

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-31 Thread JOHN PANARESE
I was able to see the headings and hit the link with all my cursors tracking one another as well. However, I had problems if this was not the case. Take Care John D. Panarese Managing Director Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. 9 Nolan Court Hauppauge, N

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-30 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alastair, You're findings seem valid with respect to VO and javaScript. I did find that if you did not have the mouse following the VO cursor, it did not fire at all. totally logical in my mind. I did also note that sometimes it would not fire right away but if you pressed VO keys +c

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-30 Thread David Poehlman
Hi A C, I don't know of a way to detect when something is a heading, but the text does show up which is why I mentioned that I did not see it. Thee issue of links which take you somewhere else on the same page not being followed by VO is something we are familiar with. I hope this is cor

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-30 Thread Alastair Campbell
David Poehlman wrote: I'm not seeing the headings. Hi David, There is just one heading at the top of the page, incidentally, how do you detect heading in Safari? The other thing I haven't been able to find yet is how to follow within page links. I can activate a within page link (and the s

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-30 Thread David Poehlman
Hi A C, I'm not seeing the headings. You are correct though with relation to whether the cursors are tethered. I'd also add that if you have group items in web pages checked, when you first enter the group on your page with shift-vokeys-down arrow, the link does nt immediately fire. y

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-30 Thread Alastair Campbell
Hi everyone, I've been experimenting with VO and those JavaScript functions, and I think I've worked out what happens, but thought it would be good to check with the VO experts... It seems to revolve around whether the mouse cursor follows the keyboard cursor, which might explain why Tim and

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-25 Thread Alastair Campbell
Thanks Tim, that's perfect! It seems to come down to whether the mouse focus is following the keyboard focus? I remember trying certain keyboard commands to separate the mouse cursor, but I'll have to look up what it means again, it didn't seem to make much difference at the time. Kind reg

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alastair, You asked for someone to test the following: 8 Test cases: 1: http://sf.id.au/js_tests/onmouseover/mouseover-event-link.html VO focus remains on the link but the mouse jumps to the other location. VO does not tell you so. I only knew because I knew what to look for. 2: http:

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread Marshall F. Scott
Alastair, On the first 4 links, I was able to get the Mouseover fired message multiple times. I was also able to get the added text messages on the last four items. This was done using "Grouped" items and Shift- Ctrl-Opt-Spacebar. I might have done a better job if I had read your messa

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread David Poehlman
for some reason, tab fires the first link. On Jul 24, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Alastair Campbell wrote: Someone asked a great question that I should have anticipated: "What exactly should be noted here when accessing these pages?" Each one is pretty much the same. There is one line title explaining

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread Alastair Campbell
Someone asked a great question that I should have anticipated: "What exactly should be noted here when accessing these pages?" Each one is pretty much the same. There is one line title explaining the test, and then a link (or bit of text) saying "onmouseover text" or something similar. Most

Re: VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread David Poehlman
It's not so much what will happen as it is how do wee know something is supposed to be happen. Vo will give us an indication that something has happened but it won't tell us that something should happen or where it should happen from. Jaws and window eyes report the element attribs. On

VO JavaScript support

2006-07-24 Thread Alastair Campbell
Hi everyone, I have a request for help, which hopefully will be an interesting web development experiment. Gez Lemon recently did a very good article on screen reader support for JavaScript, specifically the on-mouseover event: http://juicystudio.com/article/screen-reader-onmouseover.php Howeve