Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread KerryD
Mathias Bauer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OO probably during start up uploads all the images from hard disk into RAM, and the full CPU consumption during this process No, OOo does not load any images until they need to be displayed and even then it removes images from memory if so

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 26 septembre 2006 08:29, Mathias Bauer a écrit : > The problem is known but wasn't seen as a major problem (YMMV). Again: > it doesn't influence load or save performance, it only hits the > scrolling performance if you have a lot of images and you scroll back > and forth a lot. You don't

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bill Gates did it extremely good - he saves only changes, in contrast > to OO. The ODF does not allow to save only changes. This is a price to pay for a real standard: you can't always optimize it for a special purpose because this will reduce its usefulness for others.

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 08:29 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote > The problem is known but wasn't seen as a major problem (YMMV). Again: > it doesn't influence load or save performance, it only hits the > scrolling performance if you have a lot of images and you scroll back > and forth a lot. And of course

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mar 26 septembre 2006 08:29, Mathias Bauer a écrit : > >> The problem is known but wasn't seen as a major problem (YMMV). Again: >> it doesn't influence load or save performance, it only hits the >> scrolling performance if you have a lot of images and you scroll back

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 26 septembre 2006 10:52, Ian Lynch a écrit : > On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 09:56 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> This of course would be less a problem if svg import/export was useable >> so you wouldn't need high-res bitmaps to produce quality paper documents. > > Do Draw files not stay as vec

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 09:56 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mar 26 septembre 2006 08:29, Mathias Bauer a écrit : > > > The problem is known but wasn't seen as a major problem (YMMV). Again: > > it doesn't influence load or save performance, it only hits the > > scrolling performance if you have

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread jan . sekal
Hi Mathias > > Bill Gates did it extremely good - he saves only > > changes, in contrast > > > to OO. > > The ODF does not allow to save only changes. This is > a price to pay for > a real standard: you can't always optimize it for a > special purpose > because this will reduce its usefulness for

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread jan . sekal
Hi, >Do the settings in Tools >Options >OOo >Memory make >a difference to >performance? These changes does not affect it at all, that is also curious. E.g., if I set no. of buffered object to 1, no change is observable, the consumption of RAM is still desperate 180 MB (I have 512 MB) and these 18

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 11:30 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > I either don't have control over my diagram sources, or they use objects > like visio shapes, which can only be exported in a semi-standard way using > svg (and draw svg import/export sucks big time Agree. > - never manage to have a >

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Ian Lynch wrote: ... I have been voting for SVG draw support from the beginning :-) Which issue is most pressing? http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=49991 -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant ! -

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, OO DOES LOAD all images in RAM during start up: > If the images are inserted as a link, the .odt has 600 kB (40 images > and 6 characters). Opening > of this file under OO takes 20 s (on the first start up and with OO > startup, it takes 70 s all in all) (!!!), R

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
KerryD wrote: > Hi, Matthias. Perhaps you can shed some light on an issue which has > been the cause of some disagreement. > > Do the settings in Tools >Options >OOo >Memory make a difference to > performance? They can help to circumvent exactly the problem we are talking about: if the image

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
Ian Lynch wrote: > On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 08:29 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote > >> The problem is known but wasn't seen as a major problem (YMMV). Again: >> it doesn't influence load or save performance, it only hits the >> scrolling performance if you have a lot of images and you scroll back >> and

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread Mathias Bauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Mathias > >> > Bill Gates did it extremely good - he saves only >> > changes, in contrast >> > > to OO. >> >> The ODF does not allow to save only changes. This is >> a price to pay for >> a real standard: you can't always optimize it for a >> special purpose >> beca

Re: [discuss] Writing a MSc, PhD, DSc or a text book in Open office - P1 for Issuezilla

2006-09-26 Thread jan . sekal
Hi Nicolas, > > You don't need a lot of images just a few high-res > ones. > When you have a page-wide high-res image, the interaction > between > pagination changes and image loading is deadly Sorry, I didn't understand completely this paragraph... > > This of course would be less a problem if

[discuss] OpenOffice Calc

2006-09-26 Thread Robert Sitter
Wow, I've just been sold! I've been using Microsoft Office for 4 years, working with spreadsheets and Word. I just tried Calc and I gotta say, Built in pdf feature, super easy functions (that are easy to switch over from Excel), just everything was great! And free!? Wow, just sending an email o