Re: [discuss] OpenOffice on Ebay

2005-06-04 Thread Jonathon Blake
Jan wrote: Today I so that some people in Belgium try to sell OpenOffice on Ebay And your problem with that is? Maybe you can do something against these bandits Misrepresentation, perhaps? I think there are spelling dictionaries for more than 15 languages. That is about the only thing that

Re: [discuss] Just wondering...

2005-05-28 Thread Jonathon Blake
Kelly wrote: grammar check like Microsoft Word has? The current Grammar Checkers for OOo admit to being beta, or alpha quality. Microsoft does not admit to providing pre-alpha quality grammar checkers. [Or have they finally taught their grammar checker the difference between thee and the?]

Re: [discuss] Publisher like program

2005-05-27 Thread Jonathon Blake
Joel wrote: adding a publisher like program to OOo What functionality does Publisher have, that OOo does not have? xan jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-25 Thread Jonathon Blake
Joerg wrote: Even if you had such an installation, the OpenOffice.org application did not support switching languages after initial (user) setup. Which explains why the user was able to change the GUI language _after_ installation. That also was one of the selling points. xan jonathon --

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-25 Thread Jonathon Blake
Joerg wrote: Which explains why the user was able to change the GUI language _after_ installation. Do you mean that the user could change it (only, once, forever) at user installation time? I mean that the user could have it in language a today, switch to language b tomorrow, then to

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-25 Thread Jonathon Blake
Joerg wrote: How? We were talking about OOo 1.1.x and there I said that the Start Program OpenOffice.Org Change Language And that brings up Open Office Language Select Language and a choice of languages. Highlight the appropriate language. Click on the Apply Changes button. Start Openoffice.

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-24 Thread Jonathon Blake
Mathias wrote: possible to find out if it is a bug or what else might be the root cause. If I listed them all here, will they be changed to something more appropriate than won't fix. Like priority 1 --- which most of them are? Most of them are listed in Issuezilla. Those are obviously

Re: [discuss] Styles: Two considerations

2005-05-23 Thread Jonathon Blake
John wrote: 1. You can't include bullets as part of the style! That is what the numbering style property is for xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25 TB Hard drive space

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: he will *HAVE TO* up grade. When a MSO 97 or 98 user comes across a MS Word 2004 file, a .doc, he double clicks on it, and it opens without a hitch. He does not *HAVE TO* upgrade. He _will_ have to upgrade. No ifs, ands, or buts,. MSO97 can not correctly read files created

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
James wrote: was rebooting the server. I'm sure youre PHB appreciates that. g xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25 TB Hard drive space - To

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
Steve wrote: Can we put this one to bed now. Please? I'm going to suggest that Rigel's answer be put in FAQ, as part of the explanation of why OOo is not 100% compatible with MSO. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25

Re: [discuss] Page numbers, Thesaurus, Foreign Languages

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
Sherman wrote: First, all my instructors require page numbers on every page except the first page. Use Page Styles: Set the first page style to have no header information. Set the front matter page style to use roman numerals. Set the regular pages to use Arabic Numbers. [And if you want

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
On 5/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no migration in OOo. There is a migration from 1.1.x to 2.0. The question is whether or not the migration is cost-effective. [Actually, there also is a migration between 1.1.2 and 1.1.3, and 1.1.3 and 1.1.4. In retrospect, for me,

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
Rigel wrote: what things are those Johnathon that can be done with 1.13 but can't be done since then? SwitchLang is the most obvious, though 2.0 will, in theory, incorporate something similar. Bidi support is the most blatant. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with:

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: You leave out the re-education process. Going from MS Office XP to MS Office 2003 does require a slight readjustment period but not as much as it would to go from Office XP to OOo 2.0. _If_ they were trained properly in the first place, the cost of teaching them how to use

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: so they'd have to pay you for your time. a) When a company does a systemwide upgrade, they do it by department. b) If they are smart, the contract will not be on hours worked, but on people trained. so their lost productivity doesn't start going down until they get to be with you.

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: that's not what I said. I didn't say that MS would never use OOo. Slight off topic, but did you that the most popular browser at 1 Microsoft Way is Firefox? And the number 1 email client is Thunderbird? [This includes everybody from the filing clerk to board room.] Which leads me

Re: [discuss] Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-17 Thread Jonathon Blake
Ken wrote: Most companies do not use a lot of macros. A company may not sanction them, but the users create, and use them. What are there are fairly easily rewritten. Macros that a company _officially_ use, tend to be either very trivial, or very non-trivial. Either somebody wrote it in ten

Re: [discuss] Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-17 Thread Jonathon Blake
Daniel wrote: a short list of top missing functions in Calc? Is that an offer to write them as macros? xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25 TB Hard drive space

Re: [discuss] Re: Java in OO.o: Proprietary trap or creative commons?

2005-05-05 Thread Jonathon Blake
Johan wrote: For the time being I'll assume that OOo 2 will require Java. Also assume that you will have to compile it from scratch. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25 TB Hard drive space

Re: [discuss] Open Source Software

2005-05-02 Thread Jonathon Blake
Joseph wrote: E-Sword e-Sword is decidedly not open source. The e-Sword prohibits reverse engineering. It also prohibits distribution within a commercial context. [And 'commercial context' has an _extremely_ broad definition.] Not all are open source but all are freeware AFAIK, _The

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
Andrew wrote: very big: - Native Widget Framework That's not really an improvement of functionality. sarcasmRight. /sarcasm Critical things that should be P1 are rated P4, because the developers don't know that any country other than the US and Germany exist, or that there are languages

Re: [discuss] Re: data base in OOo2?

2005-04-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
Arthur wrote: making a database from scratch Sort of. Some Database interfaces make it much easier to create a database from scratch, than others. For example, it was much easier to create a database using PC File, than using dBase3. If OOo could provide the same sort of interface/support

Re: [discuss] World Lingo - Language translation

2005-04-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
J C Helary wrote: roman alphabet ? Technically, it expects the Latin Writiing System, not the Roman Alphabet. Rigel wrote: do the native-lang projects, have their own discuss lists? Most individual projects have either discussion lists, or webforums setup. Finding the webforums is not easy.

Re: [discuss] Re: data base in OOo2?

2005-04-12 Thread Jonathon Blake
Matt wrote: This is a basic summary of the changes; there are many other changes, But how easy is it to create a database from scratch, with the new interface? Or maybe I should ask the question this way: Will Great Aunt Martha be able to create a database, without calling me? xan jonathon

Re: [discuss] Hausa localized?

2005-04-08 Thread Jonathon Blake
Christian wrote: Does anyone know if Hausa, an African language, has a localization project in the works I _think_ I've read about some L10N projects on the A12N list. I have explained how tough a localization project can be, but this kid loves languages. OOo should not be the first L10N

Re: [discuss] annoying

2005-03-22 Thread Jonathon Blake
CPH wrote: Almost all of your other points are also possible to change. The only thing that _might_ be an issue is slow opening in comparison to MSOffice. Everything else he complains about can be configured by the user. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz

Re: [discuss] Re: Telling the user what gets lost

2005-03-22 Thread Jonathon Blake
Rod wrote: I would imagine the engineers that built the filters would know what works and what doesn't That would be true, if, and only if, the engineers wrote one filter for each of the various file formats that proclaims itself to be word doc, orRTF, or any of the other export choices OOo

Re: [discuss] MSN Producer like program in OO Impress's future

2005-03-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Nicolas wrote: Need I remind you of all the java parts in OO.o that were and probably still are deactivated on lots of Linux systems ? Question: Is the Helix patch Java, or not? _If_ it is Java then: a) Sun may adopt it. b) The linux distributions will exclude it. _If_ it is not Java,

Re: [discuss] fonts

2005-03-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Adrian wrote: IN Word it is possible to save fonts along with the document being used What, exactly do you mean here: a) The document includes the entire font. b) The document has the name of the font. c) Something else. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz

Re: [discuss] MSN Producer like program in OO Impress's future

2005-03-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: That is ludicris! You think every thing Sun adds to OOo involves Java? Which explains why the code base in 2.0 is more dependent on Java than 1.1.5, which is more dependent on Java than 1.1.4. And also why OOo 2.0.1 will be more deependent on Java than 2.0. Or hadn't you noticed

Re: [discuss] MSN Producer like program in OO Impress's future

2005-03-17 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote Who cares if it would fly in the Linux market? Because that is where the Geeks are. smirk On a more serious note, is this patch multi-platform? I'm guessing that it is. But since someone *FROM HELIX* did it for us, and even signed the freaking JCA! +1 Now how long will it

Re: [discuss] MSN Producer like program in OO Impress's future

2005-03-14 Thread Jonathon Blake
Swqeet Coffee wrote: I have asked this question four times (To the point where I was really replying to myself) in the Impress forum with no I dont' know about other people, but I ignore all answered questions at OOoForums, unless the subject line looks _very_ interesting. Your replying to

Re: [discuss] Re: 3D/4D with Base, or is there something else?

2005-03-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chris wrote: ARRAY(x,y,z,x1,y1,z1,...xn,yn,zn) or any other way you would like to describe Flat field database: record: record_id attrbiute_1 attribute_2 attrbiute_3 attribute_4 attrbiute_5 attribute_6 attrbiute_7 attribute_8 ...

Re: [discuss] OOO Forums Under Attack

2005-03-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: Has anyone visited OOoForums recently? Apparently, it has been hacked, by someone or someones named Hiking. That has happened within the last hour. xan jonathon -- A Fork requires: Seven systems with: 1+ GHz Processors 2+ GB RAM 0.25 TB Hard drive

Re: [discuss] Gmail

2005-02-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
hero oher wrote: Im interested with some of your 50 unused gmail Just emailed you a couple. xan jonathon -- The taxpayers of the United States of America have funded every major terrorist attack in the world since 1950. -

Re: [discuss] Gmail

2005-02-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
David wrote: BTW: i've nearly 100 invites to give away ... I don't belive because you have 50 invites to give away at Some GMail users get 50. A few get 100, and a few get 25. Anybody have any suggestions on how to go from 100 to zero gmail invites in one day? xan jonathon -- Want a

Re: [discuss] Re: What about SQLite, was: Funding for remaining HSQLDB work

2005-02-16 Thread Jonathon Blake
NIcu wrote: with 2.0 beta almost out of the door, Is this the reason the 2.0 beta was not released in November, as the _original_, not updated schedule proposed? The updated schedule slipped the date to December, then January, and now early summer. HSQLDB is the only remaining viable solution,

Re: [discuss] Re: What about SQLite, was: Funding for remaining HSQLDB work

2005-02-15 Thread Jonathon Blake
Ian wrote: Unless we are saying SQLite will take less resource to get to the same or further along the develoment line than a) Where is HSQLDB on the development line? A driver for SQLite, and OOo was available early 2004, or late 2003. I don't know how well it works, though. xan jonathon --

Re: [discuss] Extras for OOo

2005-02-04 Thread Jonathon Blake
Daniel wrote: * Grab templates from ooextras.sf.net and the Docs site. Suggestion / Question: Can somebody volunteer to make some of the templates that come with MSWorks, and MSOffice, for OOo? Then include those templates in your extra goodies CD? MSWorks TaskWizards (which I assume are

<    1   2