[discuss] OOoCon (friday) - Introducing ODF to mobile platforms / born digital

Great conference with very interesting talented people, content in an incredible beautiful venue. It was a great pleasure to meet people in real life. I'm home again physically to a crisp autumn, despite the epic security theatre featuring a cast of thousands there in Vantaa and new 'guards' that

[discuss] OOo Summer 2010 Internship Projects

There was an announcement about hiring students to do programming work over the summer. Where can we read up on the status and what's going on? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Internship/Projects Specifically has someone been let loose on the Engineering Notation

Re: [discuss] [OT (but where else to ask?)]: Timestamp

On 06/29/2010 05:31 PM, John Kaufmann wrote: > Searching the issues database (on an unrelated problem) prompted a > question about the timestamp format: See ISO 8601 or discussions of it: A summary of the international standard date and time notation http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html

Re: [discuss] OT: Return receipts - Was: [discuss] Please make Open Office Speech Recognition Friendly

Peter Junge wrote: > would you please be so kind to not request return receipts while sending > to mailing lists. I'm getting about 50 to 100 mails from OOo lists each > day and it's quite annoying if these message boxes pop-up while trying > to work through them. If we had better mailing list sof

[discuss] OOoCon 2006 - 2009

What are the attendance numbers for the recently past OOoCons? /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org

Re: [discuss] Texting (writing) for Visual Impaired

On 05/10/2010 11:57 AM, Malte Timmermann wrote: > For me this sounds like a feature request for a general draft mode, > which could be helpful in different scenarios, including the scenario > described below: Malte, it sounds vaguely like the ability CSS has to provide different styles based on th

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice.org Splash Screen (was Re: [discuss] OOo and Oracle)

On 05/04/2010 06:44 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: > ... my suggestion is to go one more > step backward and start evaluating which of the visuals of the old > splash screen do not work with the new sponsor logo and come then to a > conjointly decision of what will be the basis of a new splash screen

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice.org and OpenDocument Format

On 04/21/2010 11:06 AM, Michael Adams wrote: Groan -1 ...i don't need reasons. Don't be so quick to dismiss the technical aspects in eagerness to use name calling. Microsoft formats are for all practical purposes undocumented, especially the new ones. The new ones are very much moving targ

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice.org and OpenDocument Format

On 04/20/2010 10:51 PM, James E. Lang wrote: My first reaction while still reading this proposal was the same as Noop's. That is because I had not read the whole proposal yet. Jean-Baptiste's proposal has great merit. My experience with files that needed to be available for a Windows user but th

Re: [discuss] Re: Oracle now charging $90 for Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office

On 04/21/2010 12:22 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I think their mind is on be able to price something to sell to their clients. AFAIK I think they are choosing OOo adoption over ODF adoption. Yes, that route also makes sense. If customers want ODF support, upgrading to OOo is a good option.

Re: [discuss] Apology: OOo is not a copy of MS Office [was: ODF icons - possible compromise?]

Thorsten, oh that's rich, coming from Novell staff. His apology is made of fine words, but the behavior repeats. Copying by any other name is still a semantically incorrect description of the project's status, history and, I do hope, goals. All that is a distraction from the problem of revis

Re: [discuss] Oracle now charging $90 for Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office

On 04/20/2010 04:53 PM, John W Kennedy wrote: $9000, actually, since they have a minimum order of 100. They're also charging, also with minimum orders, for what they call "Oracle Open Office". Which brings up some interesting problems with marketing confusion. /Lars --

Re: [discuss] Apology: OOo is not a copy of MS Office [was: ODF icons - possible compromise?]

On 04/19/2010 11:39 PM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: I thought my reply to your mail showed what I really meant. It might, it might not. Now I used the word "copy" again ... Regardless of the string of letters used, copy by any other name has the same meaning semantically. So when you mea

[discuss] Re: Danish government chooses ODF

(Moving this from Users@ where it does not belong, over to discuss@ where it is on-topic.) On 04/17/2010 11:08 PM, Dave Barton wrote: 2010/1/30 Lars Nooden: The  Sun ODF plugin can be found here still [snip] The subsequent "Download Now" link goes to the Oracle on-line store,

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

On 04/16/2010 05:28 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: I don't think it is reasonable or fair towards Bernard to somehow suggest him being a colleague of MS guys. Sorry, it must have been the content of his messages over time that gave that illusion. We'll say it's a coincidence. Regardless, the basics o

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

Re-read my message, Drew. Breaking from normal icon schemes by providing non-standard icons for standard formats is bad marketing for OOo because it implies that somehow OOo might not be using real ODF and instead using a broken version, like M$ Office does. Having icons tied to the applicati

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

On 04/14/2010 12:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their basics: Bernhard, please read up on the interoperability goals of ODF, that might help you catch up. In general, a fundamental goal of a universal document format is that i

Re: [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets produced by Excel 2010?

PS "Allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other peoples browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities." p1. Plainti

Re: [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets produced by Excel 2010?

On 04/14/2010 08:14 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > not all of you are familiar with the problem. The fact that MSO intentionally breaks ODF is very familiar to many, perhaps everyone. That is not news. http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/fact-sheet-Microsoft-ODF-support.pdf http://www.openm

[discuss] Re: Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

On 04/01/2010 02:03 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: hm, at least this is my perception. I saw four public statements It is under the radar of many. ... but have not yet received any indication that, with the clarifications, > I may now be acceptable. ;) That would be easy enough to figure out:

Re: [discuss] Re: OOo fails to open a DOCX file with nested tables! -- correction

On 2010-3-17 10:55 PM, Robert A Williams wrote: > For information only, Microsoft Office 2007can open a DOCX, and can re-save > it as .doc and other Microsft formats, and if Service pack 2 is installed it > can also open and save in Open Document format. No. That remains not true. MSO SP2 cannot

Re: [discuss] Re: OOo fails to open a DOCX file with nested tables!

>> http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ >> >> That helps mitigate the DOCX problem closer to the source. > > You're saying that the person with Office 2007 should install an ODF > plugin? Yes. That's the fastest work around until they can arrange to upgrade to a better suite. Follow th

Re: [discuss] OOo fails to open a DOCX file with nested tables!

On 2010-3-16 9:40 PM, PJH wrote: > I had a friend with Office 2007 take that file and save it as Office > 2003 and OOo has no problem with that. The quick work-around is to have them install the ODF plugin: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ That helps mitigate the DOCX problem closer

[discuss] Jonathan Schwartz on OpenOffice.org in 2003

There are some interesting events in Jonathan's post: Bill skipped the small talk, and went straight to the point, “Microsoft owns the office productivity market, and our patents read all over OpenOffice.” OpenOffice is a free office productivity suite found on tens

Re: [discuss] Annoying problem

2010/3/8 Harold Fuchs : > But he doesn't know that. He just thinks he's asked a question and > ... If he's running a certain product, that we need not name, in place of a mail server, then he's used to lost messages and hasn't given it a thought yet and will try again next week. ;) On 2010-3-8 7

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> I haven't looked at Gnumeric in 5 years, it's gotten a stigma lately >> and does not support ODF. It used to compare favorably to StarOffice, >> before OOo. ODF support is must-have and it may be that OOo is the only >> current option. Though there's been a lot of i

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

NoOp wrote: > Yes. There's currently decent import support for OpenDocument. We also > recommend Rich Text format as the best way to share documents with other > Word Processing software. > > But the last line sentence is... just plain... argh. > > http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.8.0.ph

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

NoOp wrote: > No... it's a "whiteboard" for discussion: ... the result of which > will most likely affect the April 2010 release of Lucid UNE. Thanks. It was unclear the scope of the discussion and what affect it would have. > ... but "optimized" for the small screen: > http://www.canonical.c

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

Alexandro Colorado wrote: > What I feel like is that there is the mistake to think that a netbook > is an internet appliance, but further from this. I strongly agree. In part it is isolated from the net because wireless and 3G are less than ubiquitous even in many towns, hotels, etc. Connectivit

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

NoOp wrote: > Don't rely on scuttle-but, instead just follow along and/or comment at: > That is the feedback and discussion for UNR. Where is the actual list of applications? Or is that it? Regards /Lars -

Re: [discuss] OO.o - Ubuntu Remix - well, maybe Google Docs is out also - Abiword and Gnumeric?

Drew Jensen wrote: > just passing this along - I'd say from everything I'm reading that this > is all still way high up in the air...but here is the scuttle-but of the > day > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/few-days-ago-we-shared-word-that.html Here is what it is about It is about going ba

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice is 99% open

Wm Stewart wrote: > They key point I'm trying to highlight is that 99% is not enough to > reach the tipping point. Solving the last 1% of interoperability issues > with something as important to users as office documents are all that is > keeping the world back from adopting OO as their office su

Re: [discuss] Words of thanks and thoughts for the future WAS Re: [dev] Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition

Kazunari Hirano wrote: > Hi Cor, Liz and all, > > We see "OpenOffice" on their pages such as "DOWNLOAD INFORMATION" on > http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/index.html and "SOFTWARE STRATEGY > WEBCASTS" on http://www.oracle.com/events/productstrategy/index.html > > Shall we ask Oracle to correct them, "

Re: [discuss] OOo on the Nokia N900

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: > I just jumped at Lars' "KISS", which didn't make sense in the context > he used it. And missed. http://catb.org/jargon/html/K/KISS-Principle.html A clean interface is a simple interface and a side effect is that it scales down. The current UI

Re: [discuss] OOo on the Nokia N900

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: > Hi Lars, > >> Yes, the UI must be such that it works even on low resolution systems. > > Below a certain threshold, making the UI fit into the screen resolution > is a *significant* effort, for an application as complex as OOo, > offering as man

Re: [discuss] OOo on the Nokia N900

Alexandro Colorado wrote: > If the UI of OOo was scalable, this could be managed to fit on that screen. Yes, the UI must be such that it works even on low resolution systems. I see it as part of the KISS principle that is so unpopular these days. Many netbooks still have low resolution around 800

[discuss] OOo on the Nokia N900

A blog entry on OOo on a Maemo-driven tablet: "OpenOffice.org and the Gimp on the N900" January 20, 2010 http://temporaryland.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/openoffice-org-and-the-gimp-on-the-n900/ /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: di

Re: [discuss] Re: OO.o Moving forward ...

Robert Derman wrote: > Many times I have thought that OOo should dump Collab.net for another > vendor. Or at least regular software. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-

Re: [discuss] OO.o Moving forward ...

Robin Laing wrote: > Do you have RFE's or Bug numbers for reference? If they are not > reported, they cannot/will not be fixed. @Twayne: The UI for the bug reporter is absolutely tedious. However, even though it's in the way, it's what's there. Most, if not all, of these bugs have been reporte

Re: [discuss] Tabs in OOo

jonathon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 02:25, Matthew McGowen wrote: >> implements tabbed 'browsing' in Office. ... When I work on multiple projects at the same time, they often use several applications. There is some e-mail activity, some web page viewing, and other things. Maybe a spread s

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice for Android

What steps, technically or administrative are needed? Should a sub-project be set up for the Android platform? -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@ope

Re: [discuss] Installing OOo in College.

Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Bhargav > Prasanna wrote: >> ... >> 2. Does Ooo 3.1 for Windows have .docx, .pptx and .xlsx support? I >> heard it does. But I'm not sure. I'm using Ooo 2.4 on Debian Lenny. So >> I don't know for sure.. =) > > Yes it does, but OpenDocum

Re: [discuss] Installing OOo in College.

Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > 2. Does Ooo 3.1 for Windows have .docx, .pptx and .xlsx support? I > heard it does. But I'm not sure. I'm using Ooo 2.4 on Debian Lenny. So > I don't know for sure.. =) That's really a format you wish to steer clear of. Keep in mind that 'docx', 'pptx' and 'xlsx' are no

Re: [discuss] OOo project proposal: Security Project

>> security is a really important topic, and it should get better >> visibility/attention on OOo. ... >> I would like to ask all of you to support and to vote for this new >> project, as proposed below. ... +1 - To unsubscribe, e