Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

John W. Kennedy wrote: Robin Laing wrote: I remember my Vic 20 with 8K of ram with a home made expansion pack. Children, children I remember when the world's most popular /mainframe/ had 1,400, 2,000, or 4,000 characters of memory. (You could expand it up to an absolute maximum of 16,0

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

John W. Kennedy wrote: Robin Laing wrote: I remember my Vic 20 with 8K of ram with a home made expansion pack. Children, children I remember when the world's most popular /mainframe/ had 1,400, 2,000, or 4,000 characters of memory. (You could expand it up to an absolute maximum of 16,00

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Robin Laing wrote: I remember my Vic 20 with 8K of ram with a home made expansion pack. Children, children I remember when the world's most popular /mainframe/ had 1,400, 2,000, or 4,000 characters of memory. (You could expand it up to an absolute maximum of 16,000 characters, but more th

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Ian Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 12:48 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: How things have changed. 300baud modems to DSL and fiber. Which is why the desktop computer as we know it is not likely to last for ever (Its a desktop PC, Jim but not as we know it :-) ) The real disruptive change will

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 12:48 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > How things have changed. 300baud modems to DSL and fiber. Which is why the desktop computer as we know it is not likely to last for ever (Its a desktop PC, Jim but not as we know it :-) ) The real disruptive change will be when people don't

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Robin Laing wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 18:38 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 07:45 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: [snip] You're showing my age, Ian! It was 640 Kb of RAM. Man you are right. It was 640K, not 640M. Ouch. I remember my

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 18:38 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 07:45 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: [snip] [snip] You're showing my age, Ian! It was 640 Kb of RAM. That was Robin :-) There was also a story that Bill Gates visited Aco

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 09:34 +1000, Tim Fairchild wrote: > Yep, Bill denies saying it. Of course he denies a lot of things :) What he did or did not say misses the point. What matters is that DOS was badly designed in the first place. It got taken up because suits in industry trusted IBM as the do

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Wednesday 16 Nov 2005 05:37, Chad Smith wrote: > On 11/15/05, Robin Laing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't this the same person that stated that 640Mb of ram would be more > > than enough? Isn't this the same person that came in late to the > > Internet? Isn't this the same person that misse

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 18:38 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Ian Lynch wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 07:45 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > [snip] > > >> > >> Isn't this the same person that stated that 640Mb of ram would be > >> more than enough? Isn't this the same person that came in late to

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On 11/15/05, Robin Laing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Isn't this the same person that stated that 640Mb of ram would be more > than enough? Isn't this the same person that came in late to the > Internet? Isn't this the same person that missed the search engine > boom started by Yahoo and expand

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 07:45 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: [snip] Isn't this the same person that stated that 640Mb of ram would be more than enough? Isn't this the same person that came in late to the Internet? Isn't this the same person that missed the search engine boom start

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 07:45 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > > Mind in 5 years I guess that a $100 client with solid state storage will > > easily hold an operating system and office productivity tools so maybe a > > web based office will be used for other reasons such as to minimise the > > use of fil

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Ian Lynch wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 14:34 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: I would hate to be that student working on my term paper that needs to be handed in tomorrow when the network connection goes down due to a problem with one of the many hops that I have to work through. What do you do i

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 14:34 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > I would hate to be that student working on my term paper that needs to > be handed in tomorrow when the network connection goes down due to a > problem with one of the many hops that I have to work through. What do you do if there is a pow

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On 11/14/05, Robin Laing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was talking about this today with one of our IS people. Simple > answer is it won't work for many and a pain for others. My > Mother-in-law does allot of writing. Even though she has DSL, she > only connects when she is browsing. She uses

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Chad Smith wrote: Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5940792.html?tag=nl.e589 In a memo to top company executives, the software giant's chairman ponders the challenges posed by a host of online competitors. It seems MS is more worried about Writely - ht

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On 11/10/05, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 11:31 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > > It seems MS is more worried about Writely - http://www.writely.com/ - > than > > it is about OpenOffice.org. > > Really? They can't be *too* worried about it, after all, the first thi

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 11:31 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > It seems MS is more worried about Writely - http://www.writely.com/ - than > it is about OpenOffice.org. Really? They can't be *too* worried about it, after all, the first thing I got upon visiting was an ASP.NET session cookie. > That's not

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On 11/10/05, Lars D. Noodén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 2 cents: It's interesting to note the amount of apparent revisionist > history going on indirectly through the 'leaked' memos and more overtly > through put-up pieces. Back in 1995, when both the web and the Internet > were still growing

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Lars D. Noodén wrote: BTW If anyone has a working link to the "Halloween Documents, please post it. OSI no longer has them and ESR has not yet put them at his site. Sure, at the Internet Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20021204193241/www.opensource.org/halloween/ -- nicu my Open

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Here is another analysis of the memos: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/10/gates_ozzie_memos/ My 2 cents: It's interesting to note the amount of apparent revisionist history going on indirectly through the 'leaked' memos and more overtly through put-up pieces. Back in 1995, when bo

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Charlie's article mirrors my thoughts on the memo very closely: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27594 To me it's simply part of a campaign to keep the name in the headlines so that people (esp. editors) don't leave time for discussion of OO2, OpenDocument, Firefox, CPAN, etc... -L

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Le mercredi 09 novembre 2005 à 20:27 -0500, Alex Janssen a écrit : > Chad Smith said the following on 11/09/2005 11:31 AM: > > >Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes > > > >http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5940792.html?tag=nl.e589 > > > >In a memo to top company executives, the software giant

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

On 11/9/05, Alex Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think writely.com or windows live or office > live will be > replacing OOo in my office any time soon. I know that you can speculate > that it might, but it won't. > We like having our software run locally and havin

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Chad Smith said the following on 11/09/2005 11:31 AM: Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5940792.html?tag=nl.e589 In a memo to top company executives, the software giant's chairman ponders the challenges posed by a host of online competitors. It seems

Re: [discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Chad Smith wrote: It seems MS is more worried about Writely - http://www.writely.com/ - than it is about OpenOffice.org. That's not a slam against OOo, merely a suggestion that a online version of OOo (like, perhaps, the one Google is developing) would be a good idea right about now. Indeed,

[discuss] Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes

Gates memo warns of 'disruptive' changes http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5940792.html?tag=nl.e589 In a memo to top company executives, the software giant's chairman ponders the challenges posed by a host of online competitors. It seems MS is more worried about Writely - http://www.writely.com