Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-19 Thread Bernd Eilers
Hi there! First of all a big +1 for the proposal from me too. I would be especially intrested in having something available that could be used in server applications, eg. from java servlets, to create or modify ODF documents without the need of having to connect to a running soffice

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-19 Thread Oliver Specht
Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit +1 Oliver - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-19 Thread Kai Sommerfeld
Hi, Bernd Eilers wrote: Hi there! First of all a big +1 for the proposal from me too. [...] An ODF API would be a good thing for sure. Reusing existing API´s from OOo is also a good thing. I could imagine being able to write a component that works as an extension installed to

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kai Sommerfeld
Malte, Malte Timmermann wrote: Cool - I like that, +1 :) This might help a lot of people who want to do some (automatic) ODF processing. I personally am especially interested in the OOo refactoring that will have to be done for this :D Yes, refactoring code with the goal to increase OOo

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kai Sommerfeld
Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hello Dieter, Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Seems to be the week of project proposals here ... I like the idea - ODF is becoming more and more important in various areas, not only the classical office productivity. We, the

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Carsten Driesner
Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Scope Summary The scope of the ODF Toolkit OpenOffice.org project is: 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a desktop application.

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kai Sommerfeld
Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:36:26 -0600, Thorsten Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieter Loeschky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Am all for it! +1! Cheers, -- Thorsten I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems
Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Scope Summary The scope of the ODF Toolkit OpenOffice.org project is: 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a desktop application.

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Frank Meies
On 01/16/07 20:00, Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit As ODF is gaining more and more importance, this definitely is a great idea. So a big +1 from me. Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:52 +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote: This project will increase the visibility of OOo through the ODF and will strengthen the position of the OOo community as the experts in ODF. Thus, a big +1 from me. There is also a

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kai Ahrens
Hi, having in mind the great press about ODF the last weeks and months and seeing more and more people, whole organizations and public authorities adopting it, this seems to be one of the most necessary things we should bring on the way at the moment: not only allowing people to use and exchange

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Ian Lynch wrote: At the current state of play in the politics I'd play up the fact that there is expertise in ODF in many applications and communities, particularly when talking to governments. +1 -Lars Lars Noodén ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensure access to your data

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Niklas Nebel
Ian Lynch wrote: There is also a downside to this in that the real benefit of ODF over MS OOXML is that its seen to be multi-application. If the image is projected that ODF is effectively controlled by OpenOffice.org (or worse, Sun) and not OASIS, it will significantly weaken that advantage. At

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kai Ahrens
Hi, having in mind the great press about ODF the last weeks and months and seeing more and more people, whole organizations and public authorities adopting it, this seems to be one of the most necessary things we should bring on the way at the moment: not only allowing people to use and exchange

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Ian, There is also a downside to this in that the real benefit of ODF over MS OOXML is that its seen to be multi-application. If the image is projected that ODF is effectively controlled by OpenOffice.org (or worse, Sun) and not OASIS, it will significantly weaken that advantage. I don't

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Stephan Schaefer
Dieter Loeschky wrote: 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a desktop application. This will be achieved by transforming an appropriate subset from the OpenOffice.org source code basis,

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi, +1 Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An ODF toolkit also isn't an extension to OOo, it has a much wider scope. It starts as an offspring of OOo, hence its close relationship to the project. But future development hopefully enters new areas and so boldly brings the whole project where

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Brauer
Ian, Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:52 +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote: This project will increase the visibility of OOo through the ODF and will strengthen the position of the OOo community as the experts in ODF. Thus, a big +1 from me.

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Christian Lippka
Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit ODF is one of the biggest assets of OpenOffice.org, I'm very pleased to see that it gets more attention! +1 Christian. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Mathias Bauer
Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:52 +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote: This project will increase the visibility of OOo through the ODF and will strengthen the position of the OOo community as the experts in ODF. Thus, a big +1 from me.

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany
Great ! I think this is a great opportunity to attract more developers and grow our community. +1 from me ! Regards, pl Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Scope Summary The scope of the ODF Toolkit OpenOffice.org project is: 1. To improve the ability to use

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 12:57 +, Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 12:19 +0100, Michael Brauer wrote: Ian, Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:52 +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote: This project will increase the visibility

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Dieter, Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a desktop application. This sounds wonderful; I believe people vote thus: +1 :-)

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-18 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 09:46:45 AM +0100, Kai Sommerfeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The new project makes the connection between OOo and ODF crisp and clear, but we do not want every user of the toolkit to become an OOo expert. As Ian already pointed out, the connection has _always_ been crisp

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Pavel Janík
Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit +1 -- Pavel Janík [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi It sounds a goo idea and i'll follow this project a +1 for me Laurent -- Laurent Godard [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ingénierie OpenOffice.org - http://www.indesko.com Nuxeo Enterprise Content Management http://www.nuxeo.com - http://www.nuxeo.org Livre Programmation OpenOffice.org, Eyrolles

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dieter Loeschky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Am all for it! +1! Cheers, -- Thorsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:36:26 -0600, Thorsten Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieter Loeschky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Am all for it! +1! Cheers, -- Thorsten I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or Extensions project? -- Alexandro Colorado Grupo

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Mathias Bauer
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:36:26 -0600, Thorsten Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieter Loeschky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Am all for it! +1! Cheers, -- Thorsten I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or Extensions

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Niklas Nebel
Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or Extensions project? There will of course be overlap with existing projects - especially if we're serious about componentization (to get to the appropriate subset from Dieter's mail). But from a user's point of view, it

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:28:08 -0600, Niklas Nebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or Extensions project? There will of course be overlap with existing projects - especially if we're serious about componentization (to get to the

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Niklas Nebel wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wonder if this shouldn't be part of XML or Extensions project? There will of course be overlap with existing projects - especially if we're serious about componentization (to get to the appropriate subset from Dieter's mail). But from a user's

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Dieter, On Tuesday, 2007-01-16 17:39:12 +0100, Dieter Löschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit A good approach to increase ODF's accessibility, and an opportunity to attract developers for OOo. So +1 from me. Eike -- OOo/SO Calc core developer. Number formatter stricken i18n

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Svante Schubert
+1 I love the idea!!! :D People who work with XML based filters, focus their work on ODF. Having the expectation of a framework focus on their needs, on the work on ODF, makes me want to jump into the future!! ;-) Thanks for the late x-mas present!! Svante Dieter Loeschky wrote: Project

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Eike Rathke wrote: On Tuesday, 2007-01-16 17:39:12 +0100, Dieter Löschky wrote: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit A good approach to increase ODF's accessibility, and an opportunity to attract developers for OOo. So +1 from me. A big plus, Cor -- Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Jonathon
Niklas Nebel wrote: something new: The place to look at if you're dealing with ODF files, even if you don't need (or want) the whole office suite. IOW, if you want to create a program that just deals with databases, the ODF Toolkit will contain a component that is database specific. Or did I

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Jonathon, something new: The place to look at if you're dealing with ODF files, even if you don't need (or want) the whole office suite. IOW, if you want to create a program that just deals with databases, the ODF Toolkit will contain a component that is database specific. In principle,

[discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-16 Thread Dieter Loeschky
Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Scope Summary The scope of the ODF Toolkit OpenOffice.org project is: 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a desktop application. This will be achieved by

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-16 Thread Malte Timmermann
Cool - I like that, +1 :) This might help a lot of people who want to do some (automatic) ODF processing. I personally am especially interested in the OOo refactoring that will have to be done for this :D Malte. Dieter Loeschky wrote, On 01/16/07 20:00: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-16 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi, this will add another dimension to the OpenOffice.org project and it has the potential to attract more and other developers and other contributors as well. It's a quite ambiguous goal but we all love challenges. :-) Again a big +1 from me. Seems to be a good day for starting new projects!

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-16 Thread Hans-Peter Burow
Dieter Loeschky wrote On 01/16/07 20:00,: Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Scope Summary The scope of the ODF Toolkit OpenOffice.org project is: 1. To improve the ability to use OpenOffice.org as a programming framework for creating and processing ODF documents rather than to use it as a

Re: [discuss] Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit

2007-01-16 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germ any
Hello Dieter, Project Proposal : ODF Toolkit Seems to be the week of project proposals here ... I like the idea - ODF is becoming more and more important in various areas, not only the classical office productivity. We, the OpenOffice.org community as a whole, could set a great sign by