Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thursday 06 April 2006 15:11, Marcus Leech wrote: Also, I think getting 32.768 MHz from 4Mhz with a PLL would be pretty difficult (if not impossible) Given that you haven't looked into the PLLs on the FPGA, it's rather too early to conclude that you couldn't synthesize 32.768Mhz from

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Erik Tollerud
I guess the gr_clock_recovery_mm_cc.h was the only one - I know I got 3 or 4 other places on an earlier build, but I guess they've been cleaned up in the current one. I haven't checked the packages I don't use, though (gr-audio-portaudio, gr-comedi, gr-mc4020, gr-audio-oss, or gr-audio-jack) I

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-06 Thread Jens Elsner
(comments inlined) On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 02:02:23PM -0400, Robert McGwier wrote: Yes. Here is what you are missing: Let us concentrate (as does your nice animated gif) on one channel in the OFDM. Yes, what's depicted are all decoded symbols in one OFDM frame. Let us suppose you have a

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: Reinstalling gnuradio

2006-04-06 Thread seph 004
Hi Thanks Patrick, your suggestion worked. Everything seems ok now. Regards Lance __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-06 Thread Jens Elsner
Achilleas, thanks for your comments. I am beginning to like this problem, as it has extended my knowlegde of OFDM tremendously - thanks everybody. Nevertheless I'd like to see it solved. We have ruled out pretty much every effect - I'm beginning to suspect that the transmitter actually sends

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Clark Pope
I guess I missed the answer to why you can't do GPS with the DBS board? It has the hooks to apply power to the antenna and it certainly has the bandwidth and tuning range. If you're concerned about having a nice clock rate to make the despreading easier you can replace the oscillator on your

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] new tarballs

2006-04-06 Thread Luis Simoes
Hi Eric, thanks a lot. Every thing is working fine now. Now I have still one question: Was the module tv_rx extinguished in the new tarballs? My old applications return the message global name tv_rx unknown. Shall I change all the applications to the way benchmark_gmsk_rx.py works? Thanks

[Discuss-gnuradio] USRP usb cable question

2006-04-06 Thread seph 004
Hi My earlier usb problem seems to be related to the cable I was using. I tried my home printer's cable and it began to work. I could load the firmware and the standard tx and rx programs worked perfectly. I tried out the usrp_fft.py script. It worked initially and then I got a stream of usb

[Discuss-gnuradio] USRP usb cable question

2006-04-06 Thread seph 004
Hi My earlier usb problem seems to be related to the cable I was using. I tried my home printer's cable and it began to work. I could load the firmware and the standard tx and rx programs worked perfectly. I tried out the usrp_fft.py script. It worked initially and then I got a stream of usb

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Marcus Leech
Daniel O'Connor wrote: According to the datasheet the PLL can only do m/n where m is between 1 and 32 and n is between 1 and 4. Therefore I don't see how it's possible. I was only guessing before, but I just checked the datasheet and it seems impossible. You could get close with a Stratix

[Discuss-gnuradio] Cygwin and the current tarballs

2006-04-06 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! For want of a better location, I've downloaded the current, and recently released collection of tar files from the Alpha GNU file server. This by the way was done using the currently active release of Cygwin. To make this work, at least to view the examples and such, is anything else

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] new tarballs

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:39:09PM +0200, Luis Simoes wrote: Hi Eric, thanks a lot. Every thing is working fine now. Now I have still one question: Was the module tv_rx extinguished in the new tarballs? I removed an out of date example that had something to do with tv_rx. My old

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Dvh
David Bengtson wrote: On 4/6/06, *Robert W McGwier* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Bengtson wrote: Martin Dvh wrote: Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. Most daugterboards (except the tvrx) use this

[Discuss-gnuradio] help installing SUSE 10

2006-04-06 Thread Garrett Mcgrath
Ok Ive already sorted out a few things with the SUSE 10 install but Im stuck installing the Octave software. Specifically I seem to be having an issue with f2c, initially I tried installing f2c and fort77. Doing this cause errors due to something mucking up in fort77, and as such Ive

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP usb cable question

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:41:00AM -0700, seph 004 wrote: Hi My earlier usb problem seems to be related to the cable I was using. I tried my home printer's cable and it began to work. Throw the bad one away -- I'm not kidding, and buy a cable certified for USB 2.0. At least around here,

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Darrell Harmon
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:55:57PM +0200, Martin Dvh wrote: (Life would be so much easier if all the clocks on the usrp would first go through the fpga. Which could then upconvert/divide/pll/override/combine any clock in verilog software.) Greetings, Martin The phase noise would be

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] help installing SUSE 10

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:03:40PM -0400, Garrett Mcgrath wrote: Ok I've already sorted out a few things with the SUSE 10 install but I'm stuck installing the Octave software. Specifically I seem to be having an issue with f2c, initially I tried installing f2c and fort77. Doing this cause

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread ldoolitt
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:55:57PM +0200, Martin Dvh wrote: (Life would be so much easier if all the clocks on the usrp would first go through the fpga. Which could then upconvert/divide/pll/override/combine any clock in verilog software.) Rule 1 for digitizing RF: never let the clock

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] State of HDTV 2

2006-04-06 Thread Charles Swiger
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 14:51 -0700, Eric Blossom wrote: When you loop the deinterleaver back, you'll need to account for the 52 segment delay through it. Using gr.skiphead is probably the easiest solution (thanks Martin!). Yet to be done: --- v

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] State of HDTV 2

2006-04-06 Thread Charles Swiger
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:23 -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: Looking closer at the De/Interleaver - I see the implementation code (atsci) for that already exists but is convolutional interleaver == data interleaver ? Ok, I see that atsci_data_interleaver.h includes convolutional_interleaver.h

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Run USRP at alternate clock frequency?

2006-04-06 Thread Clark Pope
Update on status: I purchased a 44 Mhz oscillator from digi-key (p/n 300-7254-1-ND, CSX750FJC44) for $3.38. The first attempt to remove the USRP 64 MHz failed miserably with a pen iron. I purchased a heat gun from digi-key (MA1008-ND) for $52, set it to the 1000 degree setting and the old

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Cygwin and the current tarballs

2006-04-06 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! I see. Okay, I'll delete that collection from my Cygwin setup when I've got a moment and grab the newer stuff from the regular GNU site. As for my ideas regarding Cygwin and GNURadio, perhaps your right. Now a suggestion, it was my understanding that Alpha GNU held either new software

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] State of HDTV 2

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:45:48PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:23 -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: Looking closer at the De/Interleaver - I see the implementation code (atsci) for that already exists but is convolutional interleaver == data interleaver ? Ok, I

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Cygwin and the current tarballs

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 04:54:35PM -0400, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! I see. Okay, I'll delete that collection from my Cygwin setup when I've got a moment and grab the newer stuff from the regular GNU site. As for my ideas regarding Cygwin and GNURadio, perhaps your right. Now a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Run USRP at alternate clock frequency?

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Dvh
Clark Pope wrote: Update on status: I purchased a 44 Mhz oscillator from digi-key (p/n 300-7254-1-ND, CSX750FJC44) for $3.38. The first attempt to remove the USRP 64 MHz failed miserably with a pen iron. I purchased a heat gun from digi-key (MA1008-ND) for $52, set it to the 1000 degree

[Discuss-gnuradio] gr-audio-oss segfaults

2006-04-06 Thread Berndt Josef Wulf
G'day, gr-audio-oss segfaults when built using the gr-audio-oss-0.8.tar.gz tarball. The reason for this is that the tarball includes audio_oss.cc which normally is created by swig. Consequently, the interfaces created in this file may not be correct for the every target system. I guess this

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-audio-oss segfaults

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:50:53AM +0930, Berndt Josef Wulf wrote: G'day, gr-audio-oss segfaults when built using the gr-audio-oss-0.8.tar.gz tarball. The reason for this is that the tarball includes audio_oss.cc which normally is created by swig. Consequently, the interfaces created in

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread David Bengtson
Robert W McGwier wrote: David Bengtson wrote: Martin Dvh wrote: Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. Most daugterboards (except the tvrx) use this feature (They all use a 4Mhz refclock on io pin 0. The only difference with your design is that you need

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Run USRP at alternate clock frequency?

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 04:42:56PM -0400, Clark Pope wrote: Update on status: Clark this is *very* cool. Thanks for keeping us posted on your progress. Reran my custom dbs program and it worked fine EXCEPT: The default decimation is 4 so I'm recording at 11 megasamples per second. (oddly

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread David Bengtson
Martin Dvh wrote: David Bengtson wrote: On 4/6/06, *Robert W McGwier* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Bengtson wrote: Martin Dvh wrote: Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. Most daugterboards (except

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread David Bengtson
Clark Pope wrote: I guess I missed the answer to why you can't do GPS with the DBS board? It has the hooks to apply power to the antenna and it certainly has the bandwidth and tuning range. If you're concerned about having a nice clock rate to make the despreading easier you can replace the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread David Bengtson
Martin Dvh wrote: David Bengtson wrote: After far to long, I've updated the information on the Gnu Radio GPS board. I've finished a preliminary schematic, and I'd appreciate any comments that anyone might have. Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. Most

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Matt Ettus
You may well be able to do it with the DBS board. However, GPS is a pretty weak signal, and I suspect that the noise figure is too high. The DBS board has about a 3-5 dB noise figure as I recall, but that doesn't really matter. Nearly all GPS antennas have their own LNAs inside, so noise

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread David Bengtson
Matt Ettus wrote: You may well be able to do it with the DBS board. However, GPS is a pretty weak signal, and I suspect that the noise figure is too high. The DBS board has about a 3-5 dB noise figure as I recall, but that doesn't really matter. Nearly all GPS antennas have their own LNAs

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-06 Thread Marcus Leech
David Bengtson wrote: Then you should be able to get GPS from a DBS board using an external LNA/Antenna combination. The software is left as an exercise for the student :-). Remind me, and I'll show a spectral spike of the GPS L1 signal. I have a DBS_RX, with an external LNA right at the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-audio-oss segfaults

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:50:53AM +0930, Berndt Josef Wulf wrote: G'day, gr-audio-oss segfaults when built using the gr-audio-oss-0.8.tar.gz tarball. The reason for this is that the tarball includes audio_oss.cc which normally is created by swig. Consequently, the interfaces created in

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-audio-oss segfaults

2006-04-06 Thread Berndt Josef Wulf
On Friday 07 April 2006 11:35, Eric Blossom wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:50:53AM +0930, Berndt Josef Wulf wrote: G'day, gr-audio-oss segfaults when built using the gr-audio-oss-0.8.tar.gz tarball. The reason for this is that the tarball includes audio_oss.cc which normally is

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-audio-oss segfaults

2006-04-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:52:47AM +0930, Berndt Josef Wulf wrote: On Friday 07 April 2006 11:35, Eric Blossom wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:50:53AM +0930, Berndt Josef Wulf wrote: G'day, gr-audio-oss segfaults when built using the gr-audio-oss-0.8.tar.gz tarball. The reason for