There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
re-releasing it, this is a good time to think about it. Complaints about
the name include:
- It may or may not be true that people have been detained by TSA for
working on PyBOMBS at the airport[1]
- The name suggests a Python-related
GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
Then we can say things like "Go GRAB it" when referring to a needed module
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Braun
wrote:
> There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
> re-releasing it, this is a good time to think about it. Complaints
Martin,
Excited to see pybombs2 emerging as stable !
A few thoughts on the naming below --
-Tim
On 12/22/2015 03:10 PM, Martin Braun wrote:
> There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
> re-releasing it, this is a good time to think about it. Complaints about
> the name include
The only strong opinion I have is an objection to the substring "rpm" due
to potential confusion with existing RPM installation utilities.
GRAB is nice. GRMM too.
Other possibilities are GRIP/GRIM: GnuRadio Installation and
Packages/Modules
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Tim wrote:
> Mart
YABS - Yet Another Build System
On 12/22/2015 03:37 PM, Chris Kuethe wrote:
> The only strong opinion I have is an objection to the substring "rpm" due
> to potential confusion with existing RPM installation utilities.
>
> GRAB is nice. GRMM too.
>
> Other possibilities are GRIP/GRIM: GnuRadio I
Dear all,
I would like to suggest the overall description in abbreviation:
GR.PY.SYS - GnuRadio Pyton System
Easy to Remember. Pronounce. One syllable. Name raises the level (of
already excellent content) ...
Sincerely,
Iluta
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Chris Kuethe
wrote:
> The only s
On 22.12.2015 12:31, Tim wrote:
>> - The name suggests a Python-related packages (like Pylint, PyPI...)
>> rather than a GNU Radio-related tool
> it doesn’t really need to be gnu radio specific --
> it was written to work with any such light weight recipes that follow
> standard git/cmake or other
On 22.12.2015 12:31, Tim wrote:
> personally in favour of something short and functional vs cutesy and
> contrived (we already have one of those names)
> three letter package managers seem to be relatively common practice in FOSS
>
> examples:apt, rpm, pip, gpm, npm, ...
Also, it doesn't *hav
> Also, it doesn't *have* to be an acronym.
Let's call it Bob.
Cheers,
Sylvain
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Richard Bell
wrote:
> GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
>
> Then we can say things like "Go GRAB it" when referring to a needed module
>
+1. Short, not used by any other project, pronounceable.
It could also stand for GNU Radio Application Bundles. Or Bombs.
I like GRPM - GnuRadio Package Manager.
Can never remember what pybombs stands for anyway.
On Dec 22, 2015 3:10 PM, "Martin Braun" wrote:
> There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
> re-releasing it, this is a good time to think about it. Complaints about
> the name include
Python build overlay managed bundle system
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015, 4:47 PM Donald Pupecki wrote:
> I like GRPM - GnuRadio Package Manager.
>
> Can never remember what pybombs stands for anyway.
> On Dec 22, 2015 3:10 PM, "Martin Braun" wrote:
>
>> There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and
My vote would be for one of these:
GRPM = GnuRadio Package Manager
GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
GRBI = Gnu Radio Basic Installer
I agree with Tim O'Shea, the name should be something short and functional,
and give an idea of what it does, instead of being cutesy and contrived.
--Neel
O
Another suggestion from #gnuradio was 'grapple'.
M
On 22 Dec 2015 15:12, "Neel Pandeya" wrote:
> My vote would be for one of these:
>
> GRPM = GnuRadio Package Manager
>
> GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
>
> GRBI = Gnu Radio Basic Installer
>
> I agree with Tim O'Shea, the name should be someth
Also perhaps:
GRIN = Gnu Radio INstaller
On 22 December 2015 at 15:37, Martin Braun wrote:
> Another suggestion from #gnuradio was 'grapple'.
>
> M
> On 22 Dec 2015 15:12, "Neel Pandeya" wrote:
>
>> My vote would be for one of these:
>>
>> GRPM = GnuRadio Package Manager
>>
>> GRAB = Gnu RAd
Cutesy acronym grumblings aside on this one, If all you wanted to do was
install gnu radio, apt, rpm, our emerge would do. IMO pybombs seems more
about indexing, installing, setting up development environments, and
updating out of tree modules - "grin" implied scope is a small subset
thereof
On
On Dec 22, 2015 8:31 PM, "Tim"
gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Martin,
> Excited to see pybombs2 emerging as stable !
> A few thoughts on the naming below --
> -Tim
>
> On 12/22/2015 03:10 PM, Martin Braun wrote:
> > There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and now that we're
> > re-releasing it, this i
I don't want to destroy your idea, but GRAB sounds like CRAP as well and
you can think of the associated sentences ;)
On 12/22/2015 09:31 PM, Richard Bell wrote:
> GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
>
> Then we can say things like "Go GRAB it" when referring to a needed module
>
> On Tue, Dec 22,
On 23.12.2015 09:28, Stefan Wunsch wrote:
> I don't want to destroy your idea, but GRAB sounds like CRAP as well and
> you can think of the associated sentences ;)
'grab' is also a very common english verb, so I think people would be
able to distinguish. It also sounds like 'crab' if you like :)
IMO it is generally nice to have a unique googleable name for an
application which doesn't result in five trillion unrelated Google
results. While short acronyms will have false positives, names like "grab"
or any standard English words are generally bad choices from this point of
view
Grpm and th
I'd like to throw in another point from an entry level perspective. Those
people who might need pybombs most, are those who need names that tell them
what it's for the most. Even if it is incorrect to call pybombs an
installer, it would really help the entry level folks (which I would claim
without
Totally agreed. I think this is a really important point. It is very
helpful to have a unique Googleable name, especially for beginners.
On 23 December 2015 at 10:16, Tim O'Shea wrote:
> IMO it is generally nice to have a
>
> unique googleable name for an application which doesn't result in
Most new users should be installing gnu radio binaries via their os package
manager repos or ppa. Pybombs should be used for 1. Helping get up to
date oot modules set up and deployed ( like pip ) and 2. Helping developers
set up their development environment.
So I'm not sure installer is the righ
Is there a way for a new user to get uhd installed from the package manager
though? A lot of people want to dive right into gnu radio with hardware,
doing simple things like spectrum analysis. I'm not aware of a way of
getting the uhd + gnuradio setup running that's easier then pybombs. I very
well
Ubuntu packages uhd
Assuming other oses do too
I'm sure there are up to date ppas somewhere too
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015, 1:34 PM Richard Bell wrote:
> Is there a way for a new user to get uhd installed from the package
> manager though? A lot of people want to dive right into gnu radio with
> hardw
Yeah I should have clarified that. I tried the full package manager route
of install about 2 years ago for gnuradio and uhd. It didn't work. I
installed uhd through apt-get and gnuradio through apt-get with no success.
I'm just bringing that up so we don't assume that is an easy possibility
for so
I agree with Tim, the tool is not gnuradio specific, and I personally dont
think it needs to be locked to gnuradio and have a "gr" in the name
anywhere and uniquely searchable is a must. I'm a big fan of the original
name. Otherwise:
PySIS - Pybombs Software Installer System.
On Wed, Dec 23, 201
On 12/23/2015 01:43 PM, Richard Bell wrote:
> Yeah I should have clarified that. I tried the full package manager route
> of install about 2 years ago for gnuradio and uhd. It didn't work. I
> installed uhd through apt-get and gnuradio through apt-get with no success.
>
> I'm just bringing that up
Richard is very right, most new users installed GnuRadio + other tools via
PyBombs, and not via gnuradio binaries, etc., since other means of
installation proved out to be quite difficult, well, at least for myself.
After some tries of difficult installs via binaries I switched to Pybombs
and did i
In a perfect world.
In a world where we actually live in, everything but Ubuntu 15.10 uses
horribly, horribly outdated UHD, which, as you can imagine, leads to terrible
headaches on my side. Not even accounting for the fact that the package naming,
for historical reasons, isn't always intuitive
Yeah I see alot of people on the hackrf and usrp lists using or
recommending pybombs for GR setup for new people. Despite that maybe not
being the intent, people are using it for that purpose, since its
maintained pretty well unlike all of the other build scripts and such
people have published (inc
On 23/12/15 23:28, Marcus Müller wrote:
> In a perfect world.
>
> In a world where we actually live in, everything but Ubuntu 15.10 uses
> horribly, horribly outdated UHD, which, as you can imagine, leads to
> terrible headaches on my side. Not even accounting for the fact that the
> package nam
Let's not get derailed -- this thread is about finding a new name for
PyBOMBS, or keeping the old one.
The name doesn't have to be an acronym, either. I don't know what 'pip'
stands for, I'm not even sure 'yum' stands for anything, and 'emerge' is
just a nice word that describes what it's doing. S
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Martin Braun
wrote:
>
> The name doesn't have to be an acronym, either. I don't know what 'pip'
> stands for, I'm not even sure 'yum' stands for anything, and 'emerge' is
> just a nice word that describes what it's doing. Something that the
> community finds overa
There's nothing 'wrong', but PyBOMBS does something else.
- The standard packagers can only install what someone has packaged
(usually quite outdated), and most of them only install to the system
- Installing out-of-tree modules doesn't work except for some, on some
packagers
- You often want to
Hi everyone,
new names for PyBOMBS are up for vote now at:
http://goo.gl/forms/nUfCOZWCY2
This includes most names that were suggested on the list, and some that
were suggested in #gnuradio (the latter had a higher ratio of
questionable suggestions...). However, I subtracted all the names that
w
Hey Martin,
Is there anyway for us to see results in real time before the official
closure and announcement?
Rich
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Martin Braun
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> new names for PyBOMBS are up for vote now at:
>
> http://goo.gl/forms/nUfCOZWCY2
>
> This includes most nam
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