Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Yes, Hosting is not for free. Especially if high bandwidth is to be expected. Different versions: not necessarily needed. Iknow from the QuantumSTEP repo that only Base (Foundation) and GUI (AppKit) have some peculiar dependencies on e.g. libssl, libpng, libjpeg which are different over

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Daniel Boyd
Right—your packages install into /usr/local instead of /usr/GNUstep, right?I kind of like the /usr/GNUstep setup, but I could also see the Debian people preferring the other. I think the official packages should probably mirror what Debian would want. And ultimately I think the goal would be for

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Andreas Fink
consensus on how official packages should be built. descriptions etc. and ill set aside a repo for it. it can also host apps etc but that has to be built by someone else -- Sent from Canary (https://canarymail.io) > On Mittwoch, Okt. 18, 2023 at 3:16 PM, Daniel Boyd

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Daniel Boyd
That’s awesome—let me know if I you can use any helpSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 18, 2023, at 09:05, Andreas Fink wrote:--Sent from Canary i do that already. I volunteer to host an official one. I run a ISP Backbone across Europe and Africa with multiple 100G links so Im ready for a lot

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Daniel Boyd
Downside for the private repo route is you have to pay for the hosting infrastructure. And then you’ll need packages for a bunch versions of Debian and Ubuntu that someone would need to curate. Honest question—would it be easier to do a flatpak? Also, is there any GNU infrastructure we could

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Andreas Fink
-- Sent from Canary (https://canarymail.io) i do that already. I volunteer to host an official one. I run a ISP Backbone across Europe and Africa with multiple 100G links so Im ready for a lot of downloads :-). I usually build into /usr/local for my own use. Im not sure how the old packages

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Well, I have no idea how Debian upstreaming works - I just know how a private (or self-published) repository can work (and that it is easier to handle). -- hns > Am 18.10.2023 um 15:35 schrieb Daniel Boyd : > > I know this isn’t the first time we’ve discussed getting clang-based gnustep >

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Daniel Boyd
I know this isn’t the first time we’ve discussed getting clang-based gnustep into Debian. Since Debian 12 just came out, I assume our next opportunity is Debian 13? What prevented us from getting in 12 and what do we need to do to get into 13? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2023, at 08:20,

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 18.10.2023 um 14:43 schrieb Daniel Boyd : > > The problem with a desktop environment metapackage is that gnustep is not a > desktop environment. Window Maker *uses* gnustep, but it is not gnustep > proper. In the same way that xfce uses gtk+. Yes, that is why I changed my mind to

Re: Brutal review…

2023-10-18 Thread Daniel Boyd
The problem with a desktop environment metapackage is that gnustep is not a desktop environment. Window Maker *uses* gnustep, but it is not gnustep proper. In the same way that xfce uses gtk+. I think you need to strike a balance somehow. On one hand, we don’t want to make it hard to discover