Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

Hi, and thank you for taking the time to post and add to the discussion. On 19/01/13 02:11, W. Chambers wrote: > Hi Guys > Having been a long time follower of SME and it has taken me a while to > compose this, although I have strayed from time to time I have always > come back to SME server just

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

Thanks William I had forgotton about #sme-en i have loged into it every now and again over the last few years, I joined # SME_server tonight and had a bit of fun discussion with the guys there. Just looking for some feedback. Can people more or less agreee that IRC is kind of a meet and greet

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

Hi Guys Having been a long time follower of SME and it has taken me a while to compose this, although I have strayed from time to time I have always come back to SME server just for the simplicity of the system and I guess it is what I know best. There is tons of info in the wiki and forums.

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 19 January 2013 05:02, John Crisp wrote: > I note on > Freenode there is already #sme-fr That was for the French speaking community although anyone can drop in. #sme-en was created for the rest. http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=sme-en&uio=d4 __

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 21:24, Greg Zartman wrote: > > Ive been part of this community for nearly 15 years and I cant think of > anytime over the last 15 years that any significant project > decisions/direction have been made by the community on these mailing > lists. As far as I can recall, all of them we

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 18, 2013 11:53 AM, "Gordon Rowell" wrote: > Please keep public decisions and discussions on the lists. If interim chats happen in IRC, great. But provide that context here and don't assume others are hanging out in IRC Ive been part of this community for nearly 15 years and I cant think of

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 20:53, Gordon Rowell wrote: > On Jan 19, 2013 4:25 AM, "Greg Zartman" > The world is round. I sleep while you are awake. Email can be read at my > priority. And I can read the thread and digest and excerpt to address > salient points. > > IRC has an immediacy that is valuable if you

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 19, 2013 4:25 AM, "Greg Zartman" wrote: > > > > One other point. It would be nice to have say an IRC channel to be able > > to hang out on and bat a few ideas about. Anyone have any suggestions ??? > > We tried to do something like this some time ago and it was met with much resistance and

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 19:02, John Crisp wrote: > So anyway, not that I know much about IRC, I have setup #SME_Server on > Freenode > For those without a IRC client try this : https://webchat.freenode.net/ ___ Discussion about project organisation and overall d

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 18:25, Greg Zartman wrote: > >> One other point. It would be nice to have say an IRC channel to be able >> to hang out on and bat a few ideas about. Anyone have any suggestions ??? > > We tried to do something like this some time ago and it was met with > much resistance and those of

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

> One other point. It would be nice to have say an IRC channel to be able > to hang out on and bat a few ideas about. Anyone have any suggestions ??? We tried to do something like this some time ago and it was met with much resistance and those of us who used it were basically accused of creating

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 00:51, Greg Zartman wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2013 3:20 PM, "John Crisp" > wrote: > >> Indeed. So, who is the 'treasurer, what does the bank hold if we >> actually have any cash ? > > Garrett with Ruffdog used to manage funds. I have no idea what if

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 00:07, Greg Zartman wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2013 1:01 PM, "Gordon Rowell" > wrote: >> Deleting everything to do with the failed board and related documents > would be a good start (or, better, move them to a "do not repeat" area). > > I actually started d

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shad L. Lords > wrote: > I think the no to volunteers was for doing it in a mailing list > format. I think putting together a shared spreadsheet or a wiki > page where we can update individuals that have specific roles and

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM, ajkeane wrote: > What is the current structure of SME/Contribs.org? > The current structure is quite complicated and setup to limit compromise exposure while still allowing collaboration and development to easily take place. > Who hosts SME/Contribs? > I do. I

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:37 AM, John Crisp wrote: > Could we therefore have a list of current post holders, roles, > responsibilities etc, and then if there are any vacant positions then > maybe we could try and get some filled. Or reorganise things a bit. > I think the no to volunteers was for

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 17, 2013 3:20 PM, "John Crisp" wrote: > Indeed. So, who is the 'treasurer, what does the bank hold if we > actually have any cash ? Garrett with Ruffdog used to manage funds. I have no idea what if any monies are left. > > We need to know Shads running costs. Ask him.I can tell yo

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 18/01/13 00:07, Greg Zartman wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2013 1:01 PM, "Gordon Rowell" > wrote: >> Deleting everything to do with the failed board and related documents > would be a good start (or, better, move them to a "do not repeat" area). > > I actually started d

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 17, 2013 1:01 PM, "Gordon Rowell" wrote: > Deleting everything to do with the failed board and related documents would be a good start (or, better, move them to a "do not repeat" area). I actually started down the path with Peter Walter of setting up a new organizational structure for the

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 17/01/13 22:48, Gordon Rowell wrote: Gordon, thank you for maintaining both your interest and your passion. I know you are not alone. First, thank you for the first sensible reply I have seen on the future of SME. > > There is a history of people here setting timelines but committing nothin

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 18, 2013 8:12 AM, "John Crisp" wrote: > > On 17/01/13 22:01, Gordon Rowell wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2013 11:55 PM, "John Crisp" > > wrote: > >> > >> On 17/01/13 13:48, Jim McLaren wrote: > >> > On 17/01/13 12:37, John Crisp wrote: > >> > >> > Well I'll stic

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

All I am a long time user of SME and have seen many attempts to get things rolling properly over the years. And saddly have to admit to not giving enough of my time. Having read all of the threads so far and having taken the time to think things through I would like to say the following. 1

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 18, 2013 8:14 AM, "John Crisp" wrote: > > On 17/01/13 22:01, Gordon Rowell wrote: > > > > > Deleting everything to do with the failed board and related documents > > would be a good start (or, better, move them to a "do not repeat" area). > > > > I take it that nothing was ever agreed then

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 17/01/13 22:01, Gordon Rowell wrote: > > Deleting everything to do with the failed board and related documents > would be a good start (or, better, move them to a "do not repeat" area). > I take it that nothing was ever agreed then ??? ___ Discuss

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 17/01/13 22:01, Gordon Rowell wrote: > On Jan 17, 2013 11:55 PM, "John Crisp" > wrote: >> >> On 17/01/13 13:48, Jim McLaren wrote: >> > On 17/01/13 12:37, John Crisp wrote: >> >> > Well I'll stick my head up above the parapet on this one. I'm not a >> > devel

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On Jan 17, 2013 11:55 PM, "John Crisp" wrote: > > On 17/01/13 13:48, Jim McLaren wrote: > > On 17/01/13 12:37, John Crisp wrote: > > > Well I'll stick my head up above the parapet on this one. I'm not a > > developer, but I do run a (small) business. I'd be happy to give up time > > to help out w

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 17/01/13 13:48, Jim McLaren wrote: > On 17/01/13 12:37, John Crisp wrote: > Well I'll stick my head up above the parapet on this one. I'm not a > developer, but I do run a (small) business. I'd be happy to give up time > to help out with the more mundane 'management crap'. > > (Don't panic, I

Re: [discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

On 17/01/13 12:37, John Crisp wrote: Could we therefore have a list of current post holders, roles, responsibilities etc, and then if there are any vacant positions then maybe we could try and get some filled. Or reorganise things a bit. I know this is boring non development stuff, but IMHO it's

[discussion] SME Constitution and Directors

I was just mooching round the wiki and came across a few pages that were well buried. http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Constitution http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Constitution:Team_Members http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server_Foundation:Bylaws This one is particularly interesting http://w